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    Hitting them switches sure sets off Sarah's frenzied supporters.. it makes her a nice living I guess. Just don't include any facts, screaming your talking point loud enough makes them true right? At least it makes you a lot of money. Sometimes I wonder what the US could have been if it didn't have a crazy, corporatist oligarchy running it. Maybe one day, though I doubt it.
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    Isn't it great how this thread has dematerialized from the unfair corruption of Ner'zuhl, to whether Kil'Jaeden is a draenei or an Eredar, then to Alien Genetics and now to demon sex...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bayushisan View Post
    Isn't it odd that if someone were to say the same thing about someone they think is worth following there would be screams of sexism and blood shooting from people's eyes in apoplectic rage.

    Isn't hypocrisy fun?

    (And before the accusations start flying, no I don't follow her. I'm not a conservative, nor am I a liberal. I think for myself and refrain from party affiliations because of the sheer amount of stupid that their idiotic group think can cause)
    I'd have made the same comment about Hillary, but she's minging and in no way a milf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    It's a satire on her comment that she has foreign policy experience because Russia is 30 miles away from Alaska. "Every time Putin rears his head, where does he go? It's Alaska!"

    That is what Tina Fey was satirizing, and that's the same thing people do when they repeat that statement.
    Yeah, but 90% of the Palin haters actually think she DID say it

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    To be fair. The entire government needs to be put on trial at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    As far as I know, she can still see Russia from her house, so that means she's still a major player in world politics.
    Which is bullshit, she never said that. How's that Obama campaign worked for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naxere View Post
    Are people still repeating this crap? It's not true, at all.
    He is willing to pay twice as much as the initial report thought. He even wants congress to change laws so he can even get the kids out of the country faster. If he wasn't, he is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    If it is made known that the landmines are there and they still go through them then its thier own fault and no one elses. What happens if a terrorist sneaks across the border with a dirty bomb and then it becomes known how he got into the country? Oh then its going to be " the government didnt go far enough"
    And the people who said that, to a person, would be idiots.

    This is a big country. There are lots of ways to get in. There are literally thousand of militants who aren't even on our radar, who could fly into the US tomorrow with a valid passport and a visitors visa, and plenty of sympathizers right here in the US who would happily provide access to dirty bomb nuclear waste material if they could. You want to blow up mothers and children attempting to escape poverty and desperation because one of them MIGHT have been a terrorist? That's exactly the kind of fearmongering BS that "terror" is meant to inspire. Al Qaeda can't DO anything to our country. Their largest attack in HISTORY managed to kill man people, but that number was insignificant in comparison to the overall population. Even if you detonated a full nuclear weapon in the middle of Times Square, it would only kill a small percentage of NYC population, and even if it managed to destroy ALL of NYC, it represents only a small fraction of our total population still.

    But instead of thumbing our noses in their faces and showing them that our sack has dropped, we curl up in the fetal position and let the NSA listen in to all our calls, NudeRay us and pat us down in Airports, cause panic about our borders and stir up general hatred towards middle easterners, and we have the AUDACITY to say , "F*** YEAH, AMERICA!"? We're scared of our own shadow at this point, and our extremism about "borders" and our allowance for significant intrusion in all aspects of our life because it MIGHT maybe possibly stop a potential terrorist attack? Yeah. Good job, America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Now you might say "close your legs," but abstinence policies are proven to not work, so that's not an option.
    Strange. It's worked well for me these past thirty years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Birth control, except for condoms, don't stop diseases. They stop birth. And birth control is cheaper than adding another baby to the welfare system. On top of that, it lowers the abortion rate.
    Diseases that are born into children and can be treated and eliminated should be treated, but STDs principally occur and are spread through sexual behavior. Ergo if you do not have sex, you will not transmit the disease.

    There ought be a law making it illegal for people who have STDs to engage in sexual activity period. Spare me the "It's my body" crap. No. When it affects someone else's body it becomes a joint concern, and a community concern. If we have diseases we can't cure; at least by taking this action we can quarantine it and ensure that it dies out with your body. Or we find a cure and you can go about your business Ms. Mary.

    Yes I am aware this is a harsh course, but reality is rarely pretty. Sometimes you have to take measures you dislike to ensure that the greater whole is protected. Some personal accountability goes a very, very long way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    I'd have made the same comment about Hillary, but she's minging and in no way a milf.
    Are you kidding? If you'd said it about Hillary, Endus would of banned you within seconds. It's kosher to say it about Conservatives though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin View Post
    Strange. It's worked well for me these past thirty years.
    Personal discipline is not the same thing as social policy covering 350 million people.

    I would love if you could just say "don't have sex if you aren't ready to face the consequeces" and people would actually do so. But it doesn't work. It's ineffective. People will have sex regardless, even when it's not responsible for them to do so. It's wrong, but its better to prepare for people to be irresponsible than to try to make them be responsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin View Post
    Are you kidding? If you'd said it about Hillary, Endus would of banned you within seconds. It's kosher to say it about Conservatives though.
    I've never received a ban for saying someone was a milf, and I can't imagine why I would as it's not an insult, whereas calling her minging is. However I doubt she posts on MMOC-Off Topic, so she's unlikely to complain about me not fancying her.

    I usually receive my infractions for calling people twats, and taking the piss out of Norfolk, the latter of which I'm still bitter about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin View Post
    Strange. It's worked well for me these past thirty years.
    The Orlong Method of going decades without sex doesn't have wide public appeal, hence low efficacy. That a few individuals following the Orlong Method in no way invalidates the overall trend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Personal discipline is not the same thing as social policy covering 350 million people.
    What he said.

    I would love if you could just say "don't have sex if you aren't ready to face the consequeces" and people would actually do so. But it doesn't work. It's ineffective. People will have sex regardless, even when it's not responsible for them to do so. It's wrong, but its better to prepare for people to be irresponsible than to try to make them be responsible.
    Acknowledging real data and acting accordingly seems like the actual responsible course of action. Policy is easier to change than human nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    This is America. We always have warm dead bodies.
    if we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin View Post
    Strange. It's worked well for me these past thirty years.

    Diseases that are born into children and can be treated and eliminated should be treated, but STDs principally occur and are spread through sexual behavior. Ergo if you do not have sex, you will not transmit the disease.

    There ought be a law making it illegal for people who have STDs to engage in sexual activity period. Spare me the "It's my body" crap. No. When it affects someone else's body it becomes a joint concern, and a community concern. If we have diseases we can't cure; at least by taking this action we can quarantine it and ensure that it dies out with your body. Or we find a cure and you can go about your business Ms. Mary.

    Yes I am aware this is a harsh course, but reality is rarely pretty. Sometimes you have to take measures you dislike to ensure that the greater whole is protected. Some personal accountability goes a very, very long way.

    Are you kidding? If you'd said it about Hillary, Endus would of banned you within seconds. It's kosher to say it about Conservatives though.
    The Victorian Era telegraphed, they'd like their social policy back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raincrow View Post
    And the people who said that, to a person, would be idiots.

    This is a big country. There are lots of ways to get in. There are literally thousand of militants who aren't even on our radar, who could fly into the US tomorrow with a valid passport and a visitors visa, and plenty of sympathizers right here in the US who would happily provide access to dirty bomb nuclear waste material if they could. You want to blow up mothers and children attempting to escape poverty and desperation because one of them MIGHT have been a terrorist? That's exactly the kind of fearmongering BS that "terror" is meant to inspire. Al Qaeda can't DO anything to our country. Their largest attack in HISTORY managed to kill man people, but that number was insignificant in comparison to the overall population. Even if you detonated a full nuclear weapon in the middle of Times Square, it would only kill a small percentage of NYC population, and even if it managed to destroy ALL of NYC, it represents only a small fraction of our total population still.

    But instead of thumbing our noses in their faces and showing them that our sack has dropped, we curl up in the fetal position and let the NSA listen in to all our calls, NudeRay us and pat us down in Airports, cause panic about our borders and stir up general hatred towards middle easterners, and we have the AUDACITY to say , "F*** YEAH, AMERICA!"? We're scared of our own shadow at this point, and our extremism about "borders" and our allowance for significant intrusion in all aspects of our life because it MIGHT maybe possibly stop a potential terrorist attack? Yeah. Good job, America.
    The borders are a serious economic problem. Due to our laws recognizing illigal immigrant children as automatic citizen, then giving their children and family welfare, and education aid Pell and Tap, is incentivizing more illigal crossing. It is true, we can't get rid of illgal immigrants, but we can stop incentive to come here. The Pell and Tap for example, a serious problem, due to massive amount of needing them and those people being beyond poor (illigal immigrants), the line for eligibility is dropped even further, thus people who actually pay their taxes are not eligible for it. Driving the student loan problem. America is creating problem further down the line if they give the children who came here asylm, as they gonna need welfare from state (they can't be homeless) and Education aid (thus eligibility bar even lower, and more competiton for little money). For God's sake, don't try to solve the problem with "Tax the rich" because rich are giving up their citizenship, and as this problem is continous, tax rate would have to continue to increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin View Post
    Excuses. The choice is there. Failing that choice isn't my problem. What was that saying when men got venereal disease in the 1800s?
    One night with Venus, a lifetime with Mercury. I have no sympathy for people who take the risk, and then scream for Tax Payer dollars to fix what they were too incompetent to do right. That goes for both parties.
    Who is asking for tax payer dollars? How about simply having it covered in their own damn health insurance that they work/pay for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Birth control, except for condoms, don't stop diseases. They stop birth. And birth control is cheaper than adding another baby to the welfare system. On top of that, it lowers the abortion rate.

    Now you might say "close your legs," but abstinence policies are proven to not work, so that's not an option.
    Abstinence seem to work on Middle class to upper middle class families, and among Asian, Middle Eastern communties. So...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisberb View Post
    Who is asking for tax payer dollars? How about simply having it covered in their own damn health insurance that they work/pay for?
    It is covered, only some type of them are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemishunter1 View Post
    The borders are a serious economic problem. Due to our laws recognizing illigal immigrant children as automatic citizen, then giving their children and family welfare, and education aid Pell and Tap, is incentivizing more illigal crossing. It is true, we can't get rid of illgal immigrants, but we can stop incentive to come here. The Pell and Tap for example, a serious problem, due to massive amount of needing them and those people being beyond poor (illigal immigrants), the line for eligibility is dropped even further, thus people who actually pay their taxes are not eligible for it. Driving the student loan problem. America is creating problem further down the line if they give the children who came here asylm, as they gonna need welfare from state (they can't be homeless) and Education aid (thus eligibility bar even lower, and more competiton for little money). For God's sake, don't try to solve the problem with "Tax the rich" because rich are giving up their citizenship, and as this problem is continous, tax rate would have to continue to increase.
    My post isn't about immigration control in general. However, "anchor babies" are a myth, since parents will (and are) still deported. We need smart policies to deal with immigration, the first of which would be not requiring immigrants to take a citizenship test that literally 90% of naturally born US citizens could NOT pass. Streamline the process for legal immigration, create programs that create the right kinds of social and health based welfare, and increase incentives for businesses to reinvest and hire (Nick Hanauer, super rich guy, has a great perspective on this. Fell free to look him up), and then penalize the BUSINESSES that hire illegals. If the businesses can't hire them and the barrier for entry is not a significant, then the case for going through the correct channels is much higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemishunter1 View Post
    Abstinence seem to work on Middle class to upper middle class families, and among Asian, Middle Eastern communties. So...
    Hahaha, no. NO. Teens and adults in these communities are having lots of sex. I live in an upper middle class suburb surrounded by Asian and Indian families, and there is no less a hookup culture than white poor families. The difference is that they can afford birth control and abortions when necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Personal discipline is not the same thing as social policy covering 350 million people.

    I would love if you could just say "don't have sex if you aren't ready to face the consequeces" and people would actually do so. But it doesn't work. It's ineffective. People will have sex regardless, even when it's not responsible for them to do so. It's wrong, but its better to prepare for people to be irresponsible than to try to make them be responsible.
    Everything is about cost. It is cheaper to ignore the irresponsible people? The reason makign people responsible policy does not work is because America's unwillingness to allow people lie in the graves, they dug for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisberb View Post
    Who is asking for tax payer dollars? How about simply having it covered in their own damn health insurance that they work/pay for?
    Now we're on the same page. If they pay for it themselves then that's fine. That's what I'd call Healthcare Reform. Let people design their own damn policies, slap a price tag on it that is market value and competitive and let people go from there.

    Do not force people to buy or support it though that have the beliefs of say Hobby Lobby. Everyone's different. If you want to whore yourself out, or sleep around? Go for it. If you want to keep it zipped, go for it. But lets ensure "you" are paying for your stupidity and bad life decisions.

    Not me. Not some Nuns charity, and not anyone who doesn't want to. You want the drugs that let you be a dead-beat dad, or a Vegas prostitute? That's fine. But do not expect me or the business I work for to pay for it. These things should be luxuries. You do not "need" them. And yes that includes Viagra.



    Quote Originally Posted by Raincrow View Post
    The Victorian Era telegraphed, they'd like their social policy back.
    Always said I was born 200 years too late. It's true, I practice chivalry and treat women well.
    The feminazi's can go bother someone else though, as can the Homosexuals who seem content to rub their lives in my face.

    I walk the other way and ignore them every single time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raincrow View Post
    My post isn't about immigration control in general. However, "anchor babies" are a myth, since parents will (and are) still deported. We need smart policies to deal with immigration, the first of which would be not requiring immigrants to take a citizenship test that literally 90% of naturally born US citizens could NOT pass. Streamline the process for legal immigration, create programs that create the right kinds of social and health based welfare, and increase incentives for businesses to reinvest and hire (Nick Hanauer, super rich guy, has a great perspective on this. Fell free to look him up), and then penalize the BUSINESSES that hire illegals. If the businesses can't hire them and the barrier for entry is not a significant, then the case for going through the correct channels is much higher.

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    Hahaha, no. NO. Teens and adults in these communities are having lots of sex. I live in an upper middle class suburb surrounded by Asian and Indian families, and there is no less a hookup culture than white poor families. The difference is that they can afford birth control and abortions when necessary.
    Are you seriously saying Asians can afford birth control and abortion when they are in welfare? And abortion itself would be considered "crime against humanity" by indian culture

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