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    BBC finally takes steps against Climate Deniers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBHnKIe7kDo

    to be fair climate deniers are mostly a cancer that started from the US, european countries are aknowlading that climate change is man made and that mesures to protect the enviroment should be taken.

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    Didn't watch video, but remember there is no such thing as sure science. Remember when earth was flat?

    Edit: Watched the video. Really.... pretty stupid. Who cares what the BBC decides?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlikemyrage View Post
    Didn't watch video, but remember there is no such thing as sure science. Remember when earth was flat?
    then maybe you should watch the video before commenting? )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlikemyrage View Post
    Didn't watch video, but remember there is no such thing as sure science. Remember when earth was flat?
    And this has any bearing on reality how? We have known the earth wasn't flat since the Ancient Greeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veehro View Post
    then maybe you should watch the video before commenting? )
    I did. My comment stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lollis View Post
    And this has any bearing on reality how? We have known the earth wasn't flat since the Ancient Greeks.
    Point? Now we "know" that climate change is man-made... Imagine what we will "know" a 100 years from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlikemyrage View Post
    I did. My comment stands.

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    Point? Now we "know" that climate change is man-made... Imagine what we will "know" a 100 years from now.
    100 years from now we will almost certainly know we should have taken much more drastic steps to try to offset climate change. At some point in history people assumed the earth was flat because of dipshits doing their best to disparage any idea that it wasn't because it challenged their small ignorant minds. It's weird how anyone could be so fucking stupid that they look into the face of logic and reason and are still able to just shrug it off, isn't that weird? You know, the earth is flat people, not you, you're way smarter than they were, like way smarter... And not at all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlikemyrage View Post
    I did. My comment stands.

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    Point? Now we "know" that climate change is man-made... Imagine what we will "know" a 100 years from now.
    We might have learned that if you want a balanced debate about something that is overwhelmingly accepted to be the case, you don't have a one-on-one debate.



    Also, 100 years from now we will know that we should have all bought a barge or houseboat 95 years ago before the prices shot up and the value of our real estate plummeted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veehro View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBHnKIe7kDo

    to be fair climate deniers are mostly a cancer that started from the US, european countries are aknowlading that climate change is man made and that mesures to protect the enviroment should be taken.
    1) It's the BBC, biased towards the Left-wing and progressive policies, as per Oliver Latham's (Centre for Policy Studies) "Bias at the Beeb" report. Don't quote what they say as fact.

    2) If denying climate change makes people a cancer, then kindly explain two points;

    a) Why the majority of scientists are sceptical of climate change? (http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-...warming-claims & http://www.ametsoc.org/boardpges/cwc...y-Findings.pdf & http://oss.sagepub.com/content/33/11/1477.full)

    b) Why some of the supporters of climate change have been trying to suppress data that could prove wrong the 1990 study on the effects of climate change? (http://www.theguardian.com/environme...%20body%20link)

    I do think climate change is happening, as it has done for millions of years. Where I find doubt is in the extent that mankind has exasperated the effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlikemyrage View Post
    Point? Now we "know" that climate change is man-made... Imagine what we will "know" a 100 years from now.
    Science may never be able to give you 100% surety of answers, but that has never been it's purpose. When something scientific has a high level of consensus and supporting evidence, we don't just disregard it because it's imperfect.
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    I don't buy that there's only one person saying anything about climate change that's in opposition to popular accepted theory.

    No one believes that climate change isn't a thing, and if they do then they're factually incorrect. The point of divergence is in how much man is affecting things and that is a subject worth debating. Heck just 40-50 years ago the big scare was global cooling, and then over time the climate shifted and the scare shifted with it. Rather than panic and run around in a tizzy we need to evaluate what's going on with a neutral eye and one not bound to an agenda because when you set out with an agenda people tend to find what they want in these things. It's just human nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veehro View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBHnKIe7kDo

    to be fair climate deniers are mostly a cancer that started from the US, european countries are aknowlading that climate change is man made and that mesures to protect the enviroment should be taken.
    It's not man made. Climates have changed since the creation of the earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vedrenne View Post
    The link only polls TV weathermen. They have no basis as experts here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmekiel View Post
    It's not man made. Climates have changed since the creation of the earth.
    People have died for thousands of years. There's no reason to assume this corpse full of bullets was murdered!

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    Anyway, good on the BBC for taking a stand against false equivalency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmekiel View Post
    It's not man made. Climates have changed since the creation of the earth.
    The science does not say the climate change is caused by mankind. It says it is accelerated and pushed in a direction that will make it difficult to sustain human life and the natural resources we need to survive because of mankind.

    See, this is exactly why I hate things like Twitter, because it forces you to summarize complex and evolving scientific theories with "Climate change is man-made!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    The link only polls TV weathermen. They have no basis as experts here.

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    People have died for thousands of years. There's no reason to assume this corpse full of bullets was murdered!

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    Anyway, good on the BBC for taking a stand against false equivalency.
    One out of three is bad? Fine, i'll follow Meatloaf with 'Two out of three ain't bad'.

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    I really wish NPR and other actual news organizations would do this as well as stop reporting about Hollywood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    The science does not say the climate change is caused by mankind. It says it is accelerated and pushed in a direction that will make it difficult to sustain human life and the natural resources we need to survive because of mankind.

    See, this is exactly why I hate things like Twitter, because it forces you to summarize complex and evolving scientific theories with "Climate change is man-made!"
    "Climate change accelerated by humans" isn't exactly hard to fit in a twitter message, nor do we have a small limit on characters in posts here. I'm just pointing out that the OP is incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vedrenne View Post
    One out of three is bad? Fine, i'll follow Meatloaf with 'Two out of three ain't bad'.
    The first 2 links are both the AMS. I didn't bother with the third. When he's citing the tv weatherman club I really don't take him seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    I really wish NPR and other actual news organizations would do this as well as stop reporting about Hollywood.
    Wouldn't it be nice if news actually reported on newsworthy stuff? Not Kim Kardashian's next baby or what some crazy guy thinks makes the clouds float.
    Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice if news actually reported on newsworthy stuff? Not Kim Kardashian's next baby or what some crazy guy thinks makes the clouds float.
    Exactly, I don't mean just Kim Kardashian, I mean all of it Justin Bieber, who's getting married, I really don't care about Hollywood, when I want to know what is actually going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veehro View Post
    to be fair climate deniers are mostly a cancer that started from the US, european countries are aknowlading that climate change is man made and that mesures to protect the enviroment should be taken.
    Just paying you guys across the pond back for the anti-vaxxer bullshit.

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