$4k for 4k

[Doctor Amadeus]

4K

Is not worth it now 1, because its too expensive that will wind up being an inferior product to something that comes out later, and cheaper, and 2, there isn't much content for 4k yet, and you will probably have to buy another one once more does.

[Fahrenheit]

4K

Is not worth it now 1, because its too expensive that will wind up being an inferior product to something that comes out later, and cheaper, and 2, there isn't much content for 4k yet, and you will probably have to buy another one once more does.

"its too expensive" That's an opinion, one that very much varies on a person by person basis. $4-6k for a PC maybe a lot to some (hell, to most) but to others it's not that big of a deal. Just like a $20k Honda Civic will get you from point "a" to point "b", just about the same as a $80k BMW, obviously someone is buying those BMWs.

"will wind up being an inferior product to something that comes out later, and cheaper" Like every tech product ever created?

"there isn't much content for 4k yet" If you're talking TV, yeah. But with gaming, as far as I'm aware any new realeases are going to be able to played at 3840 x 2160.

All that being said, I appreciate your posting and your opinion. I've wanted to jump into 4k for a while now but have held off as I generally don't like being on the very bleeding edge of tech (maybe just a step behind).

[Doctor Amadeus]

"its too expensive" That's an opinion, one that very much varies on a person by person basis. $4-6k for a PC maybe a lot to some (hell, to most) but to others it's not that big of a deal. Just like a $20k Honda Civic will get you from point "a" to point "b", just about the same as a $80k BMW, obviously someone is buying those BMWs.

"will wind up being an inferior product to something that comes out later, and cheaper" Like every tech product ever created?

"there isn't much content for 4k yet" If you're talking TV, yeah. But with gaming, as far as I'm aware any new realeases are going to be able to played at 3840 x 2160.

All that being said, I appreciate your posting and your opinion. I've wanted to jump into 4k for a while now but have held off as I generally don't like being on the very bleeding edge of tech (maybe just a step behind).

Nope, waste is waste, doesn't matter how much or how little you make. My point stands about the technology, and yes like every tech product ever created but buying something as soon as it comes out is a even bigger waste in getting the most bang for your buck!


As for Games, Right now current Gen Consoles PS4 is just NOW into 1080p gaming, and XboxOne has been getting a lot of flack because it is just NOW between and pushing 1080p for some games, again 4k is a huge waste in both investment and over all utility.


The only thing I could Maybe see getting a 4k for would be if you take photos of video for a hobby or business.


Either way, I think it's pretty much a waste for about another year.

[Ghâzh]

Nope, waste is waste, doesn't matter how much or how little you make.

Nope, that's relative. It might be waste for you but for him it might not. If it ends up giving him satisfaction for very little input I'd argue it being anything but waste.

[Deleted]

Thank you for the info. I'm thinking I'll hold off until I can go with dual GTX 880s, I've read they'll be out in Oct/Nov (hopefully they go with 8GB from start and not 4GB with the 8GBs coming in early 2015).

Otherwise I'm thinking I'll go with the larger 28" screen.

I'll put aside another $1000 or two in the mean time toward my PC fund.

Good idea with the dual 880, two 780 Tis just doesn't cut it for 4k.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Nope, that's relative. It might be waste for you but for him it might not. If it ends up giving him satisfaction for very little input I'd argue it being anything but waste.

Well I am pointing our reality and practical logic, you can go ahead and advocate waste if you want to.

[Doctor Amadeus]

So you're saying the computer he's building in 6 months will be able to handle everything at top settings that comes out 6 months after that? Isn't that what he's asking for?

Nope, What I am saying is that 4k still has a lot to be developed over the next year, and as it goes, I wouldn't worry about wasting the investment on the technology now, or even 6 months.

[Deleted]

Nope, What I am saying is that 4k still has a lot to be developed over the next year, and as it goes, I wouldn't worry about wasting the investment on the technology now, or even 6 months.

It's just a higher resolution, there's next to nothing to develop and that has already been done.

[Ealyssa]

It's just a higher resolution, there's next to nothing to develop and that has already been done.

Actually there's a LOT to develop before 4k can be seriously be used for gaming :

Better GPU, has allready said a quad Titan can't handel some games maxed at 4k. We need more graphic power with more vram. And with the 20nm problem nvidia can't solve fast enough we won't see these GPU this year (rumor see maybe some kind of titan 2/GTX880 late 2k14 we will see)

Better 4k panel. Because playing at 30hz is a clear NO. And 60hz isn't really awesome (but with build who can't reach 60+ FPS in 4K...). Asus said that their 4k TN gsync monitor is due Q2 2015. So before 2016 we won't see any mindblowing 4k monitor.

While 4K is obviously desirable. It's actually only a dream on the gaming side. Give it at least one year and even then will hardware really catchup the natural evolution of game power needs ?

[Doctor Amadeus]

You're being very short sighted and not using the proper logic in this case. He's not trying to be practical here, he's building a dream system. That means something that'll handle not only everything today at max settings, but also games that come out in the next year or two. If you have the funds and desire, why not go for it?

Because by the time he will be able to actually use any of the features he cares about, so will I for a fraction of the price and the same quality, again it's a waste of time, and actually could wind up causing you more problems in the future with drivers updates, hell you might even get lower quality once you finally gotten the same content ill be using for much less.

[Fahrenheit]

I'll revisit the issue come Oct/Nov when the next Nvidia flagship cards come out. I know I said money isn't really an issue, but I would rather not spend $2k+ in GPUs only for them to not be up to the task and have to spend another $2-3k+ a year down the road.

[Remilia]

Actually there's a LOT to develop before 4k can be seriously be used for gaming :

Better GPU, has allready said a quad Titan can't handel some games maxed at 4k. We need more graphic power with more vram. And with the 20nm problem nvidia can't solve fast enough we won't see these GPU this year (rumor see maybe some kind of titan 2/GTX880 late 2k14 we will see)

Better 4k panel. Because playing at 30hz is a clear NO. And 60hz isn't really awesome (but with build who can't reach 60+ FPS in 4K...). Asus said that their 4k TN gsync monitor is due Q2 2015. So before 2016 we won't see any mindblowing 4k monitor.

While 4K is obviously desirable. It's actually only a dream on the gaming side. Give it at least one year and even then will hardware really catchup the natural evolution of game power needs ?

I have not heard of an Asus 4k TN Gsync, I've heard of an Acer one but not Asus other than saying 'it's going to be there' with no ETA or anything.

That being said, a lot of newer 4k panels are 60Hz HBR SST not MST monitors now.

And honestly, this panel, UP2414Q is VERY good . If history has anything to say about Dell's old UP3214Q(sRGB, AdobeRGB was pretty meh), then their default set up is going to be very good as they've even stated on their website, though that's going to be taken as a grain of salt obviously but also a point of dispute for consumers if it isn't the case.
Infact it's GB-r LED backlit is a very odd surprise.

It's $800 (was $700 a while ago) is a weird miracle.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/dell-monitor-up2414q

NEC's one presumably the same panel is $1350.

[Deleted]

Yeah Remilia have also seen that 32" Dell monitor and probably the one you would reckon on a build like this but its too big. You'd have to be sit 2m away from that thing

[wowaccounttom]

Budget - $4k, but in all honesty, money really isn't an object here (If my wife can spend $400+ on a pair of shoes or $500+ on a bag , I'll damn well spend what I want)

Okay.. that's what you say when ur wife aint around.


As for the computer... get yourself this one: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/F..._-_Black_Mamba

[hakujinbakasama]

Well apparently the following is confirmed hardware

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J9bQcf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J9bQcf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($549.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($97.16 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus X79 Deluxe ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($326.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($330.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($649.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($649.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V850 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2775.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-24 18:10 EDT-0400

http://youtu.be/Cq-zqQiY-OA

[tielknight]

As for the computer... get yourself this one: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/F..._-_Black_Mamba

I swear that I already said this earlier to someone else, that system is also a colossal waste of money.

Well apparently the following is confirmed hardware

Not really for OP since they stated a few posts back they are going to wait a few months to see how hardware develops. Not to mention that build is a bit silly and wastes alot of money and will still struggle to run games smoothly @ 4k.

[hakujinbakasama]

Not really for OP since they stated a few posts back they are going to wait a few months to see how hardware develops. Not to mention that build is a bit silly and wastes alot of money and will still struggle to run games smoothly @ 4k.

Bioshock Infinite (Ultra+Alt post) 4k @ 69fps
Farcry 3 (Ultra 2xAA) 4k @ 48
Watch Dogs (Ultra 0xAA) 4k @ 47

You're so god damn right.
Those numbers are just shit on a stick!

[tielknight]

Bioshock Infinite (Ultra+Alt post) 4k @ 69fps
Farcry 3 (Ultra 2xAA) 4k @ 48
Watch Dogs (Ultra 0xAA) 4k @ 47

You're so god damn right.
Those numbers are just shit on a stick!

No need to get all snooty just because someone disagrees with you.
I never said it was shit either, I said it would struggle to run games smoothly @ 4k, which it does. Pretty much any computer will have issues running @ 4k because the GPU power just isn't up to par(at a reasonable price) yet, hopefully with the next series of cards(like the 880) will remedy that and that is what OP is hoping for as well.

[Deleted]

Well apparently the following is confirmed hardware

What do you even mean by it's confirmed?

[hakujinbakasama]

What do you even mean by it's confirmed?

Click the video... watch video.... win!