I actually got paid to do my mortgage. Bank owed me $800 after everything was said and done. dont know why so dont ask me how but it just worked out with the type of loan i had. No money down AT ALL.
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God I hate having to have this moronic argument with people who don't understand shit about the labor market EVERY FUCKING TIME the topic comes up.
1: your experiences do not represent the whole of America.
2: moving is expensive.
3: job availability is not guaranteed
4: employment is not guaranteed
5: your experiences do not represent the whole of America.
Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.
Just, be kind.
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I absolutely agree with your point. I can see the minimum wage going to about $9.50, but that isn't what the majority of the movement is asking for... $15 is a ridiculous jump from the current wage. If a family of 4 can't make it on minimum wage maybe they should have not had children. If we want to spay and neuter pets to help with the overcrowding problem then how come we let Janeeka, Rosa and Sally May turn out 5 children a piece and give them welfare the entire time they do so?
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"One study comparing social mobility between developed countries[10][11][12] found that of nine developed countries, the United States and United Kingdom had the lowest intergenerational vertical social mobility with about half of the advantages of having a parent with a high income passed on to the next generation. The four countries with the lowest "intergenerational income elasticity", i.e. the highest social mobility, were Denmark, Norway, Finland, and Canada with less than 20% of advantages of having a high income parent passed on to their children.[11]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility
I won't look further but I'm sure the countries with higher mobility also have higher minimum wages.
Seriously I love how people spit this bullshit about people not working and being lazy and taking welfare off the system are nothing but a bums, but that also people that do try to work like maybe a burger flipper aren't even worthy of being paid a fair wage because they should have had more sense to want to be a rock star or Kim Kardashian or some shit, and then people wonder where the fuck our values come from and why it is they seem to be in the toilet HAHAHA!
Either merely having money makes you worthy of success because you earned it or it doesn't,
This is an argument that will sadly be drowned in so much political rhetoric and emotional extremism that any truly reasonable outcome is highly unlikely.
I have the skills to drive a locomotive and Ms. Fast Food Cashier you have the skills to deal with people....That immediately makes you more qualified to deal with the general public than I am. Here's your $15/hour.
Not emotional nor political - You have a valuable skill that I don't possess...You deserve more money for doing your job.
If there would be, the increased number of humans would also increase the work needed in that area to sustain those people.
Obviously it doesn't equal out when you pounce thousands of people in a place at the same time.
That does not mean that it is still relatively easy to find jobs such as gardening, farming, waste-collecting, etc which does not require MUCH knowledge, just a few days of trying it out.
Just because someone is a advocate does not mean they are "too special" to get their hands dirty and do something else.
Tho I guess you don't get anything by thinking out of the box and doing something else in America, as they don't even have a minimum wage to support life.
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"If you want to control people, if you want to feed them a pack of lies and dominate them, keep them ignorant. For me, literacy means freedom." - LaVar Burton.
i worked at a mcdonalds for a year in the kitchen. i definitely would not say it was hard, i could man the grill solo on day one after someone showed me once how to lay everything down, very simple. it does get busy and that requires a lot of effort to stay ahead and keep the food fresh and whatnot. but then that always begged the question why do i try hard when this is not really real food anyway. 15 an hour? please.. they offered me manager for a whopping 8.25, if you do not know being a manager at a mcdonalds is basically just opening yourself up for waaaay more work, (in our case) a GM breathing down your neck about crumbs.. in a kitchen.. during lunch rush, and you are way more likely to be fired because if you are a manager they can literally blame anything wrong in the store on you and you're gone.
It would have been nice if there was a system in place to reward "good" employees (there were some guys who ran to the back to get inventory and stuff, probably just energetic people but still, that's above and beyond) but if I had started making more money than Employee B else who had been there a lot longer instead of taking the perspective that maybe Employee B could try a little harder they would just bitch and complain because this is the world most of us live in.
15 dollars an hour will never happen and if it does it will not have good side effects. As mentioned an order taker is very easily replaced by a touch screen with pictures and a well designed flow. Kitchen workers should get more money, they are the ones doing any physical labor, constant temperature change from grill/fryers to open windows/freezers.. more chance of injury from burns. I would argue Order takers need more money because they have to deal with people and not just people but.... people who eat at mcdonalds in person people, people who dress up for wal mart people, people you wouldnt give the time of day because they can't understand english language sentence structure (born and bred in america) but you just replace them with a machine and that would theoretically be way better but then these people i've mentioned wouldnt know how to work the godamn thing.
Been using self service tills at supermarkets for years. They are very easy to use and allow you to scan coupons, vouchers etc. The only people I see having problems with them are the Elderly, or younger people who are very new to technology or who are very slow learners.
For most people, self service tills are quick and easy, means less time queuing and a greatly improved shopping experience.
To Fast Food Workers:
If you are willing to work an $8 job, you are worth $8. Strike or STFU.
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they're cheaper, they're not faster. if everyone used them you're spending the same time in a line but the store makes more of a profit since they're not paying an hourly wage
when that red light starts flashing and you're shit out of luck and have to get in another line, wait for help, etc, they officially become inferior TO THE CUSTOMER
Emotional yep, people living out like slaves because some people think their pay isn't important is bound to be a grown up serious topic, and I think it deserves examining our values and where we place Work or Working hard and what that all means as it relates to money and of course status and in some peoples cases worthiness of one kind of life over another.
"If you want to control people, if you want to feed them a pack of lies and dominate them, keep them ignorant. For me, literacy means freedom." - LaVar Burton.