Your most hated raid mechanic

[Redpanda]

As the title says whats your most hated raid mechanic? Mine would have to be links with raid members. All too ofter I get linked with someone partying in Jamaica, or we link and he/she zigs and I zag, they are too slow, dont move at all, and I end up having to go XXXXX STOP MOVING! So yeah links are my most hated raid mechanic.


whats yours?

[AeneasBK]

Long bits of RP.

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Any vehicles. I hate to read all those buttons or just learning what the vehicles are for in general.

[Herecius]

Yeah, I'm gonna go with linking as well. Especially as a raid leader because with two people linked you have to basically just assume that they're going to immediately work it out between themselves how to run into each others' faces or away from each others' faces or remain an exact distance apart from each others' faces, depending on the mechanic, and there really isn't much that I as a raid leader can do to facilitate this action.

A triangular link like on Blood Queen isn't so bad though, as it's a much more lenient kind of convergence mechanic where three people just have to stack.

[Cernunnos]

long non skippable RP speeches/cutscenes. They are fine the first few times, but on progression nights they suck.
Movement as melee.
Linking beams, either ones you have to collapse on top of each other, or out range. Something always happens and one person has to do the opposite of what the other person is doing and the beam either goes through the raid, or is on the players too long and people die. The beam itself is usually not that bad, but when RNG decides to double fuck over one of the people linked it really sucks.

[Redpanda]

I think what did me in to hate links is yogg. Oh youre brain linked.....sure would be a shame if you where to be feared because someone with malady got too close and now youre partying in jamaica and your partner was a derp and didnt run with you

[Jester Joe]

Time based bosses, like the trash during Galakras for example. You have to wait for everything to continue.

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Push the button...

[AeneasBK]

Time based bosses, like the trash during Galakras for example. You have to wait for everything to continue.

I think this more accurately describes what I mean with "Long RP"... Any part of the boss fight where the raid is standing around waiting for things to happen; be it on the pull, or a phase change, or even when he's "dead" and you're waiting for loot

[Donald Hellscream]

Tankswaps( atleast at the moment ) I really find it so uninspired to just have a boss slap something on the current tank that forces people to switch to avoid getting boned, I get it there has to be a use for the 2nd tank in a raid but there are other ways than just making the boss apply a stackable debuff or stackable dot that.

[Fus Ro Yay]

any form of linknig or chaining something.

just a pain in the ass

[Jacob Sweets]

Anything from lei shen. Everything was extremely easy to avoid and deal with which made the entire fight completely boring imo.

[Neotokyo]

RNG.... hate working my ass off most raids for absolutely fuck all.

[Irisia]

Interrupts like Deafening Screech on Thok.

[Tyrgannus]

Linking/Chaining? No, that's essentially the tamer version of stack and spread. Chaining is just stack or spread for a few people. Raidwide stack or spread has EVEN MORE CHANCES that it will screw up (especially spread. How 25 mans spread perfectly is beyond me, so much easier in 10 man).

Spread is the worst. I'll soak lasers, play stop and go, kite mobs, play team handball with vashj, run in slow circles dodging lasers, find the one spot on the ground that isn't a void zone, and juggle DoT dispels HAPPILY before perfectly spreading 25 man. Yuck.

[Treeba]

Tankswaps( atleast at the moment ) I really find it so uninspired to just have a boss slap something on the current tank that forces people to switch to avoid getting boned, I get it there has to be a use for the 2nd tank in a raid but there are other ways than just making the boss apply a stackable debuff or stackable dot that.

Yeah I really didn't mind the occasional 1 tank fight. It's certainly more entertaining then "oh we need to taunt cause this debuff hit whatever number." I'd rather just go dps for a few fights.

I personally hated just about everything in the heroic Lei Shi fight. It almost single-handily drove me away from heroic raiding for a few months. I never went back after we killed Heroic Sha.

[Shabaaz]

For whatever reason, raid wide knock back pisses me off the no end. I can feel my blood boil when iron jugg shoots me across the map.

[clevin]

LInking is easy in an organized raid - put down a raid marker and tell people who are linked to run TO that if the mechanic is 'linked players need to be near one another'. If it's the opposite, place two markers far apart and figure out some wa yto figure out who runs to which one.

My most hated? Vehicles/transformations ala Amber Shaper,

[Mekkle]

Mind Control Mechanics

[clevin]

I hate the bosses where there's a special phase or ability that only one person gets every attempt and if they screw it up, wipes the raid. Thinking of the amber shaper interrupt, the sha of pride pac man, inside frostmourne on normal lich king, etc. They usually aren't hard mechanics but in my experience everyone needs to see them once before they get it. As I pug a lot, these leads to a lot of time wiping until everyone gets it.

Also, since it's random it's possible for one person to get it... then not get it for weeks.