I think the problem is they mismanage their resources and badly communicate while the higher ups just circle jerk.
I think the problem is they mismanage their resources and badly communicate while the higher ups just circle jerk.
Quality over quantity is all i can say,
Also i enyoy wow more then those games you listed
Also jaylock thread Obvious "Insert word that will get you an infraction here"
No, I'm implying that in my anecdotal experience (plus the people I usually play with) there hasn't been a game that grabbed our interest for longer than a few months, a shit-ton being around or released all the time doesn't change that. And we tried a lot of the big hype titles and also other more obscure ones. Wow, in the contentless shape it is now (I still got enough to do tho), is still more interesting than maybe 95% of the other titles, at least for me. Dunno, maybe it's the quality<quantity thing or whatever.
And for "10 years of content", it's surprisingly little in comparison.
Plus, well, I've done nearly all of it. I may not have done it when it was current, but I've stepped foot into every raid at every difficulty (except Naxx 40), 100% cleared them (except H T14 and H T 16), even did all the optional stuff (again except T14/T16), every dungeon on every difficulty, every achievement in those dungeons, hell most of the achievements in the GAME for that matter; experienced (R)BGs/Arenas and low-medium skill PvP (I don't care to PvP really), completed a plethora of quests, side things to do; I mean just go through my achievements and you'll see how much I've done. I've gone well above and beyond the average player and I'm just out of stuff to do because stuff takes too slow. The fact that WoD STILL isn't out yet is going to cause a massive drop in subs, and we will see nothing but giant spikes downwards for Q2 and Q3.
Still wondering why I play this game.
I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.
Jaylock is my new hero, that guy is not afraid to tell it like it is. Blizzard thinks that they can hide this huge content drought with this flimsy excuse 'we're making a new expansion' but it is crap. They aren't making a new expansion, they are all on vacation with rob pardo, and the fact is, anyone still playing wow at this point is a fanboy who needs to realize they are making the game worse by NOT complaining. Don't be a part of the problem guys... pull your head out.
A crossfitter, a vegan, an atheist, and a vanilla WoW player all walked into a bar. I know because they all told me within 3 minutes.
World of Warcraft: Dying on MMO Champion since 2004
Pre-Alpha WoW tester since 2002.
A crossfitter, a vegan, an atheist, and a vanilla WoW player all walked into a bar. I know because they all told me within 3 minutes.
World of Warcraft: Dying on MMO Champion since 2004
Pre-Alpha WoW tester since 2002.
Yeah, but all that "shit" you got to do that we all do over and over and over again... can we really stop and tell ourselves that it's FUN doing it?
I'm not making any response to the op to agree or disagree, I just want to throw it out there that I think a lot of us are just doing this out of habit.
I'm running ordos/celestials trying raid finder doing pvp and so many other things right now but it starts to feel like a burden and I stop and think... "Why?"
I guess because once I get everything geared up and the way I like it, I DO enjoy it. It's still cheap entertainment. But it's easy to understand why so many people still play this game, and it isn't just because it's soooo muchhh funnn. We're all creatures of habit. And this habit is going on 8 years. Kind of crazy when it's officially a third of your life.
Mmos are just done. Those who play or write about them every day just haven't realized yet.
I think the reason that Blizzard pushes out its content slower than other MMOs is that they don't really have anyone that they have to compete with. Other MMOs have each other and WoW to compete with so they feel it necessary to push out content faster, but with lower quality (note how fast ESO came out and how short its beta was AND how buggy it still is almost three months later). Usually when Blizzard releases a patch for WoW (talking official patches, not beta; every beta for every game has bugs), it might need work balance-wise or this might need a tweak, but it's not generally buggy.
I for my part don't want to make anyone quit. I just find it quite sad how economy has taken over what has been both art and entertainment. From my subjective point of view WoW offers less and less fun things. I got the feeling that it's only about making the most profit with the least effort.
As an example (at least to me), when the subscription numbers reached a new minimum,
all of a sudden Blizzard starts communicating with their community in a much more open way.
In my opinion, that behavior is not an act of generosity but damage limitation. Sadly, the times when games companies were generous are gone since years.
But I think Blizzard is an extreme example: Charging a full game's price for an expansion, charging a monthly fee white still charging for special services such as character transfers, charging for new, optional mounts, pets and special cosmetic items and, on top of that, delivering the normal subscription content in a very bad rate.
But if I compare this to my currently favorite games company, Riot Games, then I see this must not be that way. I see that a very good game can be free to play, without any initial cost, and finance itself just by selling cosmetic skins.
This is like World of Warcraft was free to play, without expansion costs or monthly fees, just using the in-game store. But Blizzard needs to charge wherever possible. Though I can't even be mad at the company. As long as the cow gives milk. you milk it.
I just think this isn't fair towards the players (which includes you).
To my opinion, Blizzard should offer two ways of playing: Either pay for the expansion and the monthly fees, therefore getting all store items for free and having instant access to new content, which is released on a more frequent regular basis,
or play for free, having to pay for mounts, pets, cosmetics and instant content access.
But alas, as long as people defend this policy and the cow gives milk...
Oh, and just to take the hot air out of your sails, this is neither crying nor screaming,
but explaining my very opinion.
You are free to have a different opinion and enjoy the game. If you do so and the price is good to you, just be happy with it.
Actually, I don't see a sense in debating with the same arguments over and over. A debate is not for convincing people who have a different opinion (actually I never saw this happen), but to make your point. Nobody here is going to make anyone do anything if they already made up their minds.
With this in mind I think we can either stop this discussion or carry on without any sentences lacking substance such as "go away if you don't like it".
Last edited by Tyranitar; 2014-07-30 at 10:20 PM.
I agree with this. For the past couple expansions now, the pace at which they release the content has left something to be desired. Some tiers last too long and others are cut too short. Looking at the expansion as I whole, I do believe MoP gave us a ton of content; not just raids, but also scenarios, challenge modes, pet battles, etc.
I too feel subjectively that wow should be free to play! This is also my opinion, so don't even you dare tell me I'm wrong! I have a right to an opinion, and I'm going to keep it, and hold onto it, and cherish it, and name it Opy. My little friend opy says you can go to hell if you don't get what I'm saying. Quit paying for wow, you're making it hard on us who want it to be f2p.
And yes riot games is awesome! Where did they get the idea for their one game that they have ever made? It's pretty neat!
And last but not least, remember, this is my little friend Opy, he can say anything he wants.