Rewind the Future -- Stop the Cycle

[Mermaid]

People are blowing up about this video, what do you guys think?

Is it misinformed or is it right on target?

Share your thoughts!

[Gheld]

It has a mixture of truth and outright fantasy perfect world garbage. Like every other dumbass "public service announcement" campaign people rally behind.

[Xisa]

If you are uncomfortable with this, it's only because it hits way too close to home.

I've struggled with my weight all my life, but I'll be god damn sure I'm not going to enable the same behavior that sank me when I younger to sink my kids.

[brimdog]

It showcases this certain, statistical situation with just enough hyperbole to drive the point home. I like it. I also judge that if someone does not find it relative then they are either in denial or without a clue.

[Gheld]

Some people who over-eat do so as a way of "Self medicating" depression and what-not. Since eating fatty/sugary foods will stimulate your hypothalamus and trigger the release of dopamine.

So a lot of people who are fat are fat because they are depressed. Not because their mother bought them a happy-meal.

[AeneasBK]

Judging from the still I'm gonna see stuff that will make me wanna hurl. I'll pass

Almost everyone in the 1st world should eat less.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying its as simple as just saying "Hurr durr everyone should eat less" neither is it my place to judge.

[Baladash]

in the sense that it is absolutely the parents responsibility to raise a child that is informed and develops good eating / health habits and the mother defaulted to whatever it took to not actually have to raise the child (she fed him junk to not have to deal with crying) - yes its right on target

why would anyone would blow up about it? (genuine question)

[Lyese]

Hmm. It raises a completely valid point about a number of things.

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One third of Americans are clinically obese, a further 27% are overweight to an unhealthy level, this is not including children; Parents are also often forcing unhealthy habits onto them, which further raises the question of a sizable increase every few years of even more adult Americans being obese or overweight.

Obesity alone in medical funding costs 147 billion dollars a year, as per 08 values, to put that in perspective smoking costs the system 96 billion dollars in medical costs.

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stat...ts/fast_facts/
http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
http://frac.org/initiatives/hunger-a...ity-in-the-us/
http://www.gallup.com/poll/170264/ad...sity-rate.aspx

Something needs to occur, and it's adverts with hyperbole mixed in, then so be it.

[Lyese]

in the sense that it is absolutely the parents responsibility to raise a child that is informed and develops good eating / health habits and the mother defaulted to whatever it took to not actually have to raise the child (she fed him junk to not have to deal with crying) - yes its right on target

I've experienced this first hand with an ex and their child. It took almost a year to break the bad habits that were formed from development, only to have it undone later. I still get a bit emotional thinking about it.

why would anyone would blow up about it? (genuine question)

Perhaps many people don't want to see the deficiencies in their parenting? Perhaps others are angry at how true it is? I can see this igniting quite the bonfire of discussion.

[Gheld]

It has a mixture of truth and outright fantasy perfect world garbage. Like every other dumbass "public service announcement" campaign people rally behind.

Wow, past Gheld, you must be psychic.

[Xisa]

Some people who over-eat do so as a way of "Self medicating" depression and what-not. Since eating fatty/sugary foods will stimulate your hypothalamus and trigger the release of dopamine.

So a lot of people who are fat are fat because they are depressed. Not because their mother bought them a happy-meal.

Depression as justification doesn't stop your heart from exploding.

Even still, they aren't fat because they're depressed. They're fat because they eat like shit due to bad habits and don't exercise. There is a reason Americans and Mexicans are vastly more overweight than the rest of the world, and it's not because we're the only people on the planet that get depressed.

Hell, look at the Japanese suicide rate, and compare our obesity rates to theirs (Hint: Their's is 3%).

[Deleted]

A paper on childhood obesity and mental health, it's a reasonable conclusion drawn i think.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2568994/

[Deleted]

OP, what are people actually 'blowing up' about? Seems pretty fine to me to say that if you feed your baby fries, you are a bad parent.

[Gheld]

Depression as justification doesn't stop your heart from exploding.

Even still, they aren't fat because they're depressed. They're fat because they eat like shit due to bad habits and don't exercise. There is a reason Americans and Mexicans are vastly more overweight than the rest of the world, and it's not because we're the only people on the planet that get depressed.

Hell, look at the Japanese suicide rate, and compare our obesity rates to theirs (Hint: Their's is 3%).

There's plenty of people who get fat eating "health" foods. The problem is that in North American culture, cooking at home is a lost art. People are at the mercy of restaurants and microwave dinners to tell them how much they should eat in 1 sitting, but when it comes time to make themselves a meal they have absolutely no clue when it comes to balanced nutrition and portion control.

If you compare the culture surrounding food in the west, to food culture in the east, the difference is like cheap amateur pornography vs artistic nude paintings. There's no respect for food in the west. It just is. And hell if I'm going to spend an hour prepping a meal when I can just go to the restaurant at the end of the street.

Basically, the entire restaurant industry should be shut down. Suddenly people would learn how to feed themselves properly 7 days a week, otherwise they would die.

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honestly it makes me think meh

fat people are fat for various reasons and unfortunately i feel little sympathy

[Xisa]

There's plenty of people who get fat eating "health" foods. The problem is that in North American culture, cooking at home is a lost art. People are at the mercy of restaurants and microwave dinners to tell them how much they should eat in 1 sitting, but when it comes time to make themselves a meal they have absolutely no clue when it comes to balanced nutrition and portion control.

If you compare the culture surrounding food in the west, to food culture in the east, the difference is like cheap amateur pornography vs artistic nude paintings. There's no respect for food in the west. It just is. And hell if I'm going to spend an hour prepping a meal when I can just go to the restaurant at the end of the street.

Basically, the entire restaurant industry should be shut down. Suddenly people would learn how to feed themselves properly 7 days a week, otherwise they would die.

No, I agree with that 100%. Americans pummell their bodies with crappy, unhealthy food.

I'm fortunate to be marrying a woman that loves to cook, and she and I are in an East Food (primarily Japanese right now) kick and have been for a few months.

Simply eating healthier food and and practicing the type of portion control that is used in that part of the world (Protip: Use smaller plates) has causes me to lose 20+ lbs just in a few months...and that's been in the middle of a move where I haven't had time to exercise.

Eating shitty food has somehow become part of "being American", and I'll be god damned if I will ever understand why. All you can do is not be part of it.

[Gheld]

No, I agree with that 100%. Americans pummell their bodies with crappy, unhealthy food.

I'm fortunate to be marrying a woman that loves to cook, and she and I are in an East Food (primarily Japanese right now) kick and have been for a few months.

Simply eating healthier food and and practicing the type of portion control that is used in that part of the world (Protip: Use smaller plates) has causes me to lose 20+ lbs just in a few months...and that's been in the middle of a move where I haven't had time to exercise.

Eating shitty food has somehow become part of "being American", and I'll be god damned if I will ever understand why. All you can do is not be part of it.

Honestly there's nothing inherently wrong with hamburgers and steak and french fries.

As long as it comes on a nutritionally balanced plate and the serving size isn't full retard. At the same time there's nothing wrong with enjoying a quadruple chillie burger every now and then, as an occasional treat.

But what I see as the problem is that food has lost the emotional connection that it once had with people.

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Basically, the entire restaurant industry should be shut down. Suddenly people would learn how to feed themselves properly 7 days a week, otherwise they would die.

Sorry but that's BS where I live. I rareley see fat people in restaurants because they get take aways or microwave meals

[Masark]

Basically, the entire restaurant industry should be shut down. Suddenly people would learn how to feed themselves properly 7 days a week, otherwise they would die.

Or they'll just buy cheap, pre-processed, nutritionally-questionable foods from the supermarket because their mandatory unpaid overtime and 3 hour commutes have left them without time to cook.