Would a Necromancer class be too similar to warlock?

[Hyde]

I would love if there is a Necromancer class, that would have;

1. Blood(healing through damage done by the necromancer or raid members, the bigger dps, the bigger amount the necro could heal),
2. Conjuration(pet dps, raised pets depending on mob killed but standardised stats, different raised pet bring different utility) and
3. Mutation(transforms into a lich/vampire to tank) specs.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

No, but it will be too similar to Death Knights. Also, what does this have to do with MoP?

[cityguy193]

Only if they take extra strides to distinguish particle effects. Perhaps make them wear something different from cloth. We could use a int wearing mail user

[Hyde]

No, but it will be too similar to Death Knights. Also, what does this have to do with MoP?

DK is a plate melee class that relies on runic power

[Cernunnos]

Curses and draining effects of necromancers in the warcraft series (warcraft 3 in particular) are currently used by Warlocks.
Summoning undead/reviving the dead are currently used by Death Knights.

So a necromancer would be something akin to a mix between a warlock and a death knight

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

DK is a plate melee class that relies on runic power

No, Dks rely on Blood, Frost and Undead. First spec you listed was Blood for the Necromancer and it seems like the same for Dks. 2nd you listed was Necromance but you edited it out. Let pretend you didn't. Necro is the same as undead, raising different pets. "Mutation" or what you called before Shadow is basically what the DK is about. Lich and vamprisim. But here's the thing, Necromancers have nothing to do with Vampires and Lichs (somewhat) or even blood.

[Zethras]

No, Dks rely on Blood, Frost and Undead. First spec you listed was Blood for the Necromancer and it seems like the same for Dks. 2nd you listed was Necromance but you edited it out. Let pretend you didn't. Necro is the same as undead, raising different pets. "Mutation" or what you called before Shadow is basically what the DK is about. Lich and vamprisim. But here's the thing, Necromancers have nothing to do with Vampires and Lichs (somewhat) or even blood.

Vampires and Liches are both undead creatures, Necromancers raise the undead to do their bidding, the stronger the necromancer, the stronger creatures he/she can control.

On Topic: Death Knights are basically necromancers in plate armour, and during the development of wrath, Blizzard said that the idea behind DKs were a combination of Runemasters and Necromancers, which is why neither of those classes made it to live.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Vampires and Liches are both undead creatures, Necromancers raise the undead to do their bidding, the stronger the necromancer, the stronger creatures he/she can control.

No Necromancer can control a Lich. Just saying

[Hyde]

No, Dks rely on Blood, Frost and Undead. First spec you listed was Blood for the Necromancer and it seems like the same for Dks. 2nd you listed was Necromance but you edited it out. Let pretend you didn't. Necro is the same as undead, raising different pets. "Mutation" or what you called before Shadow is basically what the DK is about. Lich and vamprisim. But here's the thing, Necromancers have nothing to do with Vampires and Lichs (somewhat) or even blood.

DK tank as blood, a Necro would be a good way to implement a dark healer who uses blood to heal.

[Zethras]

No Necromancer can control a Lich. Just saying

The Lich King controlled Kel'thuzad, and pretty much every other Lich in existence, with the exception of Amal'Thazad in ebon hold, who was freed along with the Knights of the Ebon Blade.

[Deleted]

No Necromancer can control a Lich. Just saying

Necromancers, well evil ones atleast, usally becomes Liches upon death.

Liches are powerfull spellcasters that seek eternal life and through different kinds of rituals and spells atain this, usally the methods are very questionable.

There are notions of powerful necromancers controlling liches tho, but that is because the caster is already stronger than the lich, even while alive, such an occasion would be severely rare.

This is using DnD, WoW and Guild Wars lore, combined with basic occult knowleadge and common stereotypes of the necromancer.

[Hyde]

Death Knights practice necromancy, ergo Death Knights are necromancers.

however, to answer your question.. no, death knights are nothing like warlocks.

touche

O how I wish blizz introduced Necromancers as a normal class instead a hero class that is dk, but then agaon, we needed a plate wearer instead of a cloth wearer for gears distribution.

[Loaf Lord]

DKs are basically what happens when a necro and a rune master make love. Plus too many classes have signature necro spells. It's kind of like how demon hunters will never be a class because they gave other classes their abilities too.

[Viradiance]

IIRC, Necromancer was one of the original classes in the concept/Alpha for WoW. They took the place of Warlocks as the Damage Over Time Cloth Wearer. Warlocks still existed, but wore Leather (also, Rogues and Hunters used shields. Alpha's crazy, right?)

Eventually, the idea was scrapped as being too similar to Warlocks, and they decided to keep Warlocks. They moved 'em down to cloth, and the rest is history...

[Hypro]

personally i would like to see another plate healer...

[Precursor]

It would have to be quite differnt from the dark themes classes we have now, and be a hybrid i suppose.
My only thoughts is that it could work with loads of aoe effects and possible be similar to the Witch doctor in diablo 3.
So things like raining frogs, and locuts swarm, but also like having hands comming up underneath mobs ?

[PaladinBash]

1. healing through damage done...old shadow priest (moreso than now)
2. ranged class with lots of pets bringing different utilities...warlock or hunter, take your pick
3. transforms into a big gribbly to tank...druid or demo lock (they wish!)

MOTION DEFEATED

[Justignoreme]

The Lich King controlled Kel'thuzad, and pretty much every other Lich in existence, with the exception of Amal'Thazad in ebon hold, who was freed along with the Knights of the Ebon Blade.

He's the Lich King for a reason. His power is way beyond than of some mere mortal adventurer...

DK tank as blood, a Necro would be a good way to implement a dark healer who uses blood to heal.

Blood mages also use "blood magic" to heal and resurrect. It's not enough to substantiate an entirely new class when they already exist (Blood DK), at a majority capacity as a spec for current classes. It could possibly make it as a spec for mages that actually heals more than themselves but meh. Same applies to Demon Hunters, which would really be hard to pigeonhole into a unique class, but could easily fill a spec for warlocks.

Should also be known, transforming into a Lich requires killing yourself, and is seen as an ascension by those who do it, so it's a one way transformation. Powerful artifacts are needed to restore them to life, as we saw with Ras Frostwhisper.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

You're in the wrong section, but yes.

It'd be like a warlock + unholy DK. In fact, Blizz said they designed unholy because they couldn't add a necromancer class.

[Kaleredar]

The only plausible avenue I see for putting Necromancers in the game is to make them a "fourthspec" for DKs, as a ranged DPS spec... perhaps contorting int plate into DPS gear.

However, as I don't see Blizzard instating across-the-board fourthspecs for all classes, I don't think it's going to happen. As has been said, necromancers aren't really "unique" enough to deserve their own class.