No charges for Florida father who beat molester to near death.

[diddle]

You know it, you love it, it's Florida!

On July 18, the father of an 11-year-old boy called police to report that his son was being molested by Raymond Frolander, 18. During the 9/11 call to the Volusia County emergency dispatch, the man is heard telling the dispatcher that he left Frolander "nice and knocked out" and "in a puddle of blood" on the floor.

The father told police he came home to find Frolander with his young son. The look on Frolander's face made the father think something was wrong. The father then said that Frolander's pants fell down to his ankles "and nothing else needed to be said" when he saw exposed genitals.
When police arrived they found Frolander badly beaten. The man was arrested for sexual battery on a child under 12 years old.
A police affidavit reported, "We observed the defendant laying motionless on the living room floor with several knots on his face and bleeding from his mouth."

The affidavit also notes that Frolander confessed saying, "I'm guilty."
In an early report CNN quoted Daytona Beach Police Chief Michael Chitwood saying he had no problem with what the father did to the molester: "Not as a police chief and not as a father."

"Dad reacted like a dad," Chitwood said. "He's acting like a father, protecting his son, and he's furious over what has occurred."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...esting-His-Son

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/22/justic...beats-suspect/

Personally I completely support the decision to not press charges, but it does create an interesting precedent and demonstrate how much power and discretion is given to officials in administering the law. According to the father he was about to execute him with a butcher knife before his son stopped him.

However, the Dad seems like an asshole due to recent events. He revealed his son's photo and identity by making a GoFundMe page (it's at the bottom of the second link) asking for one million dollars (Dr. Evil pinky) for his son's treatment after this trauma. In reality all of the press is just going to further the trauma. Police go to great lengths to protect the identity of sexual assault victims, especially minors.

What do you guys think of all this?

[Deletedaccount1]

Why do people do this shit and get caught so easily?

[Deleted]

The dad is a shithead, not because he beat up a child molester but because he wants to get rich off it.

[Jinnobi]

Knocking the guy out was fine. The police chief arbitrarily (not really, but you get the idea) making major decisions, and the funding campaign continually fueling this case are not fine. Sounds about right for Florida.

[Deleted]

The dad is a shithead, not because he beat up a child molester but because he wants to get rich off it.

basically this. I mean, wouldn't treatment be covered by the insurance anyways (not too familiar the US health insurance system)?

[Wildtree]

The dad is a shithead, not because he beat up a child molester but because he wants to get rich off it.

End of thread...
no more needed to be said.

[Tsimp]

basically this. I mean, wouldn't treatment be covered by the insurance anyways (not too familiar the US health insurance system)?

Probably not, maybe if they have the best health insurance, but 95% no.

[Deletedaccount1]

Why would you make the kid blow you in his own house when his dad could just walk in?

He should of taken him out to the woods or something. What a dumbass, people like him deserve to get caught.

[diddle]

End of thread...
no more needed to be said.

But what do guys think regarding the legal repercussions of technically allowing a man to beat an 18-year old to a bloody pulp in revenge?

[Wildtree]

Depends what they can prove actually happened. Based on the story, it sounds like the guy hadn't started yet. (His pants fell to the floor as soon as the dad walked in.) Or had just finished. Can't really say for certain.

If nothing happened, then there was no molestation that actually happened. And in that case, insurance wouldn't cover it.

Stop deflecting into a new scenario when the case is already outlined in facts..
The guy confessed his guilt.
The pants dropped, cause he likely pulled em back up when he heard some noise... Couldn't close em anymore due to lack of time. Pants dropped back down.
Whatever..... But all what matters is
The affidavit also notes that Frolander confessed saying, "I'm guilty."

No further speculations of fictional scenarios needed.

[Deletedaccount1]

But what do guys think regarding the legal repercussions of technically allowing a man to beat an 18-year old to a bloody pulp in revenge?

Wasn't revenge, it was the middle of a rape. If he went to his house the next day and beat the shit out of him, that would be revenge.

[Wildtree]

But what do guys think regarding the legal repercussions of technically allowing a man to beat an 18-year old to a bloody pulp in revenge?

In my house, you molest my child, I beat the fuck outta you..
The laws are on my side... And that's true also outside the US.
It's legally right, it's morally right.

[Deletedaccount1]

In my house, you molest my child, I beat the fuck outta you..
The laws are on my side... And that's true also outside the US.
It's legally right, it's morally right.

I don't think hurting someone is ever morally right but it is legally right.

[Deleted]

Why would you make the kid blow you in his own house when his dad could just walk in?

He should of taken him out to the woods or something. What a dumbass, people like him deserve to get caught.

WTF are you saying

[Wildtree]

I don't think hurting someone is ever morally right but it is legally right.

Of course it's morally right too. Since the moral high ground lies with the child.. You attack a child as adult, you forfeit all your morals right there.

[Spl4sh3r]

From the sound of it, we don't even know if there was any molesting (unless I don't know the full definition of the word). I mean he might have shown his genitals to the boy, but we don't know anything else. Just because his pants fell down when the father had gotten home doesn't tell us what had happen.

[Deletedaccount1]

WTF are you saying

That guy had to have known that raping a kid like that would lock him away for years so why didn't he take more care when he did it?

It's just weird to me that people do this fucked up shit and don't expect to get caught when they do it in broad daylight.

[Wildtree]

If you aren't here for discussion you're free to leave. Forums are made for discussion. If you can't understand that there is a possibility that it didn't happen (Which would make him no less guilty of the attempt), that's your own problem. Trying to squash discussion is not allowed.

Forums are made for discussion.. Correct..... But making up fictional scenarios is just dumb...
Discuss the case at hand as per the presented facts. Don't make up new ones.

[Deletedaccount1]

Of course it's morally right too. Since the moral high ground lies with the child.. You attack a child as adult, you forfeit all your morals right there.

An eye for an eye and the soon the whole world will be blind.

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Love that quote makes me look really smart

[diddle]

From the sound of it, we don't even know if there was any molesting (unless I don't know the full definition of the word). I mean he might have shown his genitals to the boy, but we don't know anything else. Just because his pants fell down when the father had gotten home doesn't tell us what had happen.

There were confessions that this had been going on for awhile, apparently he was a family friend.

Forums are made for discussion.. Correct..... But making up fictional scenarios is just dumb...
Discuss the case at hand as per the presented facts. Don't make up new ones.

You never know, insurance companies in the US are pretty f**ckin squirrelly.