Is this against the ToS?

[Pr0ev0lution]

if you need to ask it probably is

[Overdispersion]

I would compare it to making a script that autoattacks a rare that you're camping as soon as the npcscan warning comes up, so yeah. Probably against the ToS.

[Raiju]

Just going to chime in on the macro-able gaming hardware point - they are certainly not allowed, not even from logitech / razer (or should I say especially not?). You are risking a perma ban using those in WoW.

if you need to ask it probably is

This is ridiculous given how much addons do 'legally' allow you to automate (such as TSM) that someone not familiar could very easily not know where to draw the line.

General rule, although there are exceptions, is that you aren't allowed to make any action automated that would require an actual button press or click, or anything like that from you. Pretty much anything with a thought process requirement is allowed to be handled automatically as long as it's a human pressing the buttons. If you're still unsure with that just play it safe and don't.

[Jewsco]

Nice try but anyone would half a brain would realize the ramifications of allowing such a thing.
Blizz already has built in kick protection for up to four hours if one is kicked out of groups enough.
So someone with this addon would purposely try to get kicked enough to get this protection.
Once they have it they would que and afk the whole time and their would nothing the group could do to get rid of this player.

So Lfd and lfr would turn into a nightmare where people are acting up to purposely get kicked and then go afk.
So it would troll heaven then an afk fest.
Yes that would be delightful.

Yes it sucks to miss que's but this would be a god awful solution.
Another thread started was asking for a pause button on one's que.
If you had to get up and leave you at your spot in que.
That would be a much better solution.

[MikeBogina]

it would be nice if someone could make a phone app that alerts you of bg/lfr queues popping and allows you to accept them on the phone.

I'm sure some people already have that set up in the most complicated way.

[cFortyfive]

automatically dispel players automatically heals when you mouse over a player, etc.

Which addons are supposed to do that ?

This is ridiculous given how much addons do 'legally' allow you to automate (such as TSM) that someone not familiar could very easily not know where to draw the line.

The fact that there is no addon that does this should be a big hint also even tsm doesn't do jack if you don't "click".

[Lochton]

Im not so sure.

I don't understand how a simple function like accepting a queue pop would be considered botting? When you have addons that automatically dispel players, addons that show where Malkorok put his breath, addons that automatically heals when you mouse over a player, etc.

Well, for that, there is 2 versions. And 1 is not allowed. The other, is a macro. It is basicly a mouse over heal macro. The automatic one is not allowed. The same with auto cleanse. The Malkorok addon, is a marker addon, only puts a mark where it is so people can avoid it.

There is differences, thin line but it is there. Just like auto-guild invites is not allowed either.

[Raiju]

The fact that there is no addon that does this should be a big hint also even tsm doesn't do jack if you don't "click".

Comprehension skills help, as does not slicing up my post for your point.

Both Vuhdo and Decursive used to auto-dispel.

[MrExcelion]

It actually used to not be a protected function, and then word about the addon got out, and it was quickly hotfixed

[Stormspark]

Comprehension skills help, as does not slicing up my post for your point.

Both Vuhdo and Decursive used to auto-dispel.

A LOOOOOOOOONG time ago this used to be possible. This was changed WAY back in vanilla, to where addons cannot do this without actually clicking on something.

[anon5123]

If you can do it with an addon: It's legal until Blizzard decides to break that functionality.

^This

Back in Vanilla, anyone who was assigned to dispelling/decursing would use an addon called "Decursive", that basically let you just click one button and automatically decurse/dispel anyone who had a curse/bad magic effect.

It was semi-botting, but nobody got banned, Blizz just broke the functionality for that addon. And people proceeded to wipe on farm content because they had to actually think about decursing.

[Raiju]

A LOOOOOOOOONG time ago this used to be possible. This was changed WAY back in vanilla, to where addons cannot do this without actually clicking on something.

Actually decursive and vuhdo had the functions without click (via mouseover) up to at least wrath. Not sure if it got removed during wrath or cata exactly anymore.

[angelflavor]

Use Razer or Logitech scripts for this. Apparently gaming companies don't care you macro stuff as long as it's done by Razer and Logitech hardware.

Not true. The main reason they don't act is because this is approve 3rd party hardware and software and blizzard has trouble detecting how you use it.

[Kraineth]

Im not so sure.

I don't understand how a simple function like accepting a queue pop would be considered botting? When you have addons that automatically dispel players, addons that show where Malkorok put his breath, addons that automatically heals when you mouse over a player, etc.

Auto-Dispelling is not a function of Mainstream addons, you must provide an input to receive an output.

The malkorok addon is a self contained thing, it does not place world markers, it marks sections on a little pie-chart, just like how the Sha of Fear addon worked. It doesn't actually do anything in-game it is just a visual UI element, nothing more.

Mouse over heal addons like clique reguire you to press a button to actually cast the heal, you can't just hover your mouse over a player and auto-cast 20 spells.

[Tharkkun]

Im not so sure.

I don't understand how a simple function like accepting a queue pop would be considered botting? When you have addons that automatically dispel players, addons that show where Malkorok put his breath, addons that automatically heals when you mouse over a player, etc.

Malkorok addon places a mark by guessing where the most people aren't. It also adds it into an addon and doesn't modify the 3d environment of the game like AVR did. It's less than accurate in 10m. There's no auto dispell addons that have worked since decursive was changed in Vanilla and healing via mouseover requires you to push a button.

[Rivin]

Actually decursive and vuhdo had the functions without click (via mouseover) up to at least wrath. Not sure if it got removed during wrath or cata exactly anymore.

Mouseover is built into the game. You can do that without any addons whatsoever. What's not allowed (and what was broken, in this case) was having addons making decisions for you, i.e. you press the button and it automatically decurses whoever needs it. With mouseovers you still have to choose a target, so it's fine.

[Buildapanda]

ElvUI automatically accepts the invite if you don't accept it by the timer runs out so i'd say no.

[Goondicker]

This is what I want:

If you queue for something and miss the invite, you have, say, 5 minutes to requeue for the exact same thing and jump to the front of the line.

Would likely solve a lot of that problem. Could there be any serious drawbacks to this?

[shise]

As long as it's not an injector you can use it, none is ever going to notize really.

ToS? Well, it is against it as it is a third party software doing stuff for you directly related to the game and affecting other players. What do you think?

[OreoLover]

This is what I want:

If you queue for something and miss the invite, you have, say, 5 minutes to requeue for the exact same thing and jump to the front of the line.

Would likely solve a lot of that problem. Could there be any serious drawbacks to this?

Someone who wasn't going to miss their queue is now behind you in line again.

Tossing you to the front of the line probably messes with the way the system works.