what will be the biggest challenge for the NEXT US President?

[Cthulhu 2020]

If it's a republican, not a whole lot. The likelihood that s/he would bugger the economy then blame it on the next president is high.

If it's a democrat, an obstructionist congress, fake scandals being fired from the right every other week, everything he does being labeled as socialist.

[slime]

Not being hated. Because that's how we roll now.

That's how it's always been, no president (person in power) is loved by everyone. Even some one who is purely good and does only good for his/her people is hated by plenty.

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What a clusterfuck of talking-point ridiculousness. Cell phones and healthcare....sigh.

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It has nothing to do with etiquette and everything to do with their desire to shrink from public life after their term ends. The shit people fabricate to be able to criticize Obama is really quite pathetic.

Not as pathetic as the people who blindly defend him.

[NYC17]

That's how it's always been, no president (person in power) is loved by everyone. Even some one who is purely good and does only good for his/her people is hated by plenty.

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Not as pathetic as the people who blindly defend him.

No, it actually is more pathetic than people who "blindly defend" him. Of course, in the current political climate any defense of Obama is a "blind" one simply because...well, who knows? The reaction to Obama reached the absurdity point so blindingly fast, they went plaid long ago.

[Cthulhu 2020]

That's how it's always been, no president (person in power) is loved by everyone. Even some one who is purely good and does only good for his/her people is hated by plenty.

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Not as pathetic as the people who blindly defend him.

Democrats have plenty of real issues with obama, meanwhile when fake scandals come up from the right they just laugh and say "no". There's a differences between blindly defending, and Obama's opposition never actually bringing up any real criticism, just fake scandal after came scandal. He's a corporatist, he's continued over the top military contracts, he's perpetuating a lot of the problems in government. What he's not is a socialist, mastermind behind the IRS "scandal", etc.

Im visiting family and they have their TV tuned to faux news 24/7, and every single section blames something on Obama. I'm surprised they havent spun it that Ebola is his fault.

[Wells]

If the government got involved in cell phones, cell phones would cost $20,000 today and only the rich would have them.

FCC......

fuck it.

[Kujako]

If the government got involved in cell phones, cell phones would cost $20,000 today and only the rich would have them.

... if the government was not involved cell phones wouldn't work because there would be no regulation on the radio spectrum and no way to cut through all the interference.

[XangXu]

I love how the young people bash Obama so much. I can tell they are young because they didn't live through the Bush years...

Also young people today are stupid.

[Kujako]

I love how the young people bash Obama so much. I can tell they are young because they didn't live through the Bush years...

Also young people today are stupid.

I find that young people remember Bush while the old guard Republicans like to pretend Bush the second never happened and it jumped from Clinton to Obama.

[Garkanh]

keeping obamacare alive. for some odd reason people don't want a good health care system, and keeps trying to get rid of the best thing that have happened for the US in over 20 years.

[XangXu]

Honestly, right now...

I almost feel sorry for the president.


Here you have a man who essentially is... broken. While once he was a young, energetic man who really wanted to do good things not only for his country, but more for the world as a whole. He was someone who talked about cooperation, and working together, and ideas that really are fundamental if humans want to start "Fixing" themselves.

It was exciting to see such a man get into such a position of power, even as someone who doesn't live in America.

But then it just became depressing, because despite Obama's attempts to WORK with republicans and the people, he was constantly shut down and railed against. No one really cooperated with him, or even... tried to.

Even when he introduced this healthcare system that was going to HELP thousands of people your country, people pitted against him. I'm sorry guys, but i'm Canadian, and I hate to say it... your healthcare system sucks... it fucking horrible. Any time you bring the question of weather a human being has the right to live or not and apply it to a healthcare system, that should ring alarm bells. But that is another discussion for another time.


My point is... I see Obama as a man who has just given up. Despite all of his efforts to try and bring people together, shitty human nature was too powerful. What you have now is someone who, I think, just wants it to be over. It's like he's come to the realization that a lot of people have come to over the years...


Humans are fucked...

[badzerath]

Honestly, right now...

I almost feel sorry for the president.


Here you have a man who essentially is... broken. While once he was a young, energetic man who really wanted to do good things not only for his country, but more for the world as a whole. He was someone who talked about cooperation, and working together, and ideas that really are fundamental if humans want to start "Fixing" themselves.

It was exciting to see such a man get into such a position of power, even as someone who doesn't live in America.

But then it just became depressing, because despite Obama's attempts to WORK with republicans and the people, he was constantly shut down and railed against. No one really cooperated with him, or even... tried to.

Even when he introduced this healthcare system that was going to HELP thousands of people your country, people pitted against him. I'm sorry guys, but i'm Canadian, and I hate to say it... your healthcare system sucks... it fucking horrible. Any time you bring the question of weather a human being has the right to live or not and apply it to a healthcare system, that should ring alarm bells. But that is another discussion for another time.


My point is... I see Obama as a man who has just given up. Despite all of his efforts to try and bring people together, shitty human nature was too powerful. What you have now is someone who, I think, just wants it to be over. It's like he's come to the realization that a lot of people have come to over the years...


Humans are fucked...

It was exciting to see a Chicago politician get elected president?

The president's signature piece of legislation is still opposed b a majority of the country: 52% to 42% according to Ras.

Did he work with any Reps. when they passed it? No. Dems. didn't have to because they controlled house/sen/pres.

Now they don't control the house - and they won't for a long time. Actions have consequences.

It seems like you are in the camp of young, blissfully ignorant fools that hopped on this bandwagon thinking Obama is just trying so hard yet them mean old Reps. just keep stopping him.

Reality check - congress makes law and the house controls the purse. They represent their constituents and their constituents don't want everything Obama wants. That's why they lost control of the house.

[Kraenen]

General premise; restoring the US credibility internationally. Trust from friends, fear from enemies, respect from all. Pretty basic guideline for life, for individuals as well as countries for that matter, yet apparently beyond the grasp of the current administration.

Seems to be the main focus of this admin, especially after Bush all but destroyed US credibility.

[Wells]

Did he work with any Reps. when they passed it?

Republicans got to help write the bill right out of the gate for fuck's sake. This whole "DIDN'T WORK WITH US" meme is bullshit and is exactly why they all voted no despite making change after change to the bill.

[badzerath]

Republicans got to help write the bill right out of the gate for fuck's sake. This whole "DIDN'T WORK WITH US" meme is bullshit and is exactly why they all voted no despite making change after change to the bill.

They helped write it so much not a single one voted for it. Gtfo.

[Wells]

They helped write it so much not a single one voted for it. Gtfo.

Facts are facts. They GOP got to help write the bill. They had multiple changes made to the bill. The Democrats worked with the GOP on the ACA. The GOP then refused to vote for what they knew would pass anyway for political reasons.

[Sledfang]

I love how the young people bash Obama so much. I can tell they are young because they didn't live through the Bush years...

Also young people today are stupid.

Actually young people tend to be more liberal, for now... Also they tend to become more conservative as they age. Especially those that become middle class.

If young people are mad at Obama, its because they voted for him and then realized his "change" didn't equate to improvement.

Honestly, right now...

I almost feel sorry for the president.

Here you have a man who essentially is... broken. While once he was a young, energetic man who really wanted to do good things not only for his country, but more for the world as a whole. He was someone who talked about cooperation, and working together, and ideas that really are fundamental if humans want to start "Fixing" themselves.

Aww maybe we should apologize to the president for breaking him, what a victim. All of that cuddly talk doesn't mean anything unless you have the specifics to turn vision into reality.

[badzerath]

Facts are facts. They GOP got to help write the bill. They had multiple changes made to the bill. The Democrats worked with the GOP on the ACA. The GOP then refused to vote for what they knew would pass anyway for political reasons.

No, saying something is a fact does not make it so. Unless you are just completely misinterpreting democratic propaganda about how "we used republican ideas from the 90's so therefore republicans wrote obamacare".

Which you have to be a partisan zealot to actually believe that.

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Also they tend to become more conservative as they age. Especially those that become middle class.

Everyone has to grow up eventually.

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Seems to be the main focus of this admin, especially after Bush all but destroyed US credibility.

I hope you are kidding because that has only gotten worse.....and why is attacking Bush still a valid argument in your mind when it comes to decisions made by Obama?

[Norjak]

The Economy, jobs...everything always comes back to the economy. The rest is just finger-pointing. Are you better off today compared to 4 years ago, etc. They usually start talking about this a few weeks before the election.

[NYC17]

No, saying something is a fact does not make it so. Unless you are just completely misinterpreting democratic propaganda about how "we used republican ideas from the 90's so therefore republicans wrote obamacare".

Which you have to be a partisan zealot to actually believe that.

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Everyone has to grow up eventually.

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The idea that people get more conservative as they age is anecdotal. It has no business being a basis of an argument for anyone.

[Kraenen]

I hope you are kidding because that has only gotten worse.....and why is attacking Bush still a valid argument in your mind when it comes to decisions made by Obama?

Not sure what you're talking about here. We're talking about US credibility internationally, which was demolished by Bush and obviously was one of the main focuses of this admin.