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    unsurprising. IDK why these states try to appeal when SCOTUS made it clear these bans don't stand up anymore. the whole "gay marriage" debate is going to put the rest within the next few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Of course there is new and scary things out there, so it's not entirely status quo either.
    Yeah, I was just reading about the explosion at the Iranian nuke site, Ebola, mystery viruses killing children, etc, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    That's a rather provocative statement to make, particularly in this context. And even more in particularly how this ruling doesn't actually affect a majority of people.
    I think what he's trying to say is he's more worried about the much larger issues in the world today than this one. The world doesn't fall apart over gay marriage unless you're a religious zealot

    That said, congrats to all those who are affected. I live in Oklahoma and this is one of the last places I ever thought I'd see gay marriage legal. Nice to see them being dragged kicking and screaming into the modern world. I have a good friend who is over joyed that he won't have to wait til he's a senior citizen to get married to his partner. There was really never any real reason to prohibit this except as a mask for hatred. The Constitution wins again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Pretty much this. The world is connected now, thank to the internet, twitter, facebook, etc, so news gets around quicker. Unfortunately, people really like bad news, so they sit in front of their TV/Radio, Google News Page, and revel in the bad news porn which only strokes their anxiety, and fear. But, it makes money for the mass media selling it, so there is that.

    I thought I just liked staying informed but now I'm afraid I'm addicted to bad news porn. Thank you for introducing me to that concept!!!

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  5. #25
    What are my thoughts? Same as always when this happens: disappointed but unsurprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeno View Post
    What are your thoughts?
    As a Christian, I am unaffected. 1 Corinthians 5: 12 instructs us not to judge outsiders on their sexual habits. It's something I wish more Christian groups (like Westboro) would heed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itisamuh View Post
    What are my thoughts? Same as always when this happens: disappointed but unsurprised.
    Are you disappointed that the Supreme Court didn't make an actual ruling or are you disappointed that by rejecting the appeal they effectively killed same sex marriage bans in those states?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    This isn't a court case. They refused to even hear it (probably on grounds of no standing, as the Virginian attorney general would not defend it).

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    IDK if it's been mentioned yet but this also effects 4 other states. they all had their attempted bans shot down with this ruling. with 6 other states in the process of being ruled on (chances are likely they will end the same as this ruling). so we will be looking at 36 (correct me if I'm wrong) states that allow same sex marriages soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    IDK if it's been mentioned yet but this also effects 4 other states. they all had their attempted bans shot down with this ruling. with 6 other states in the process of being ruled on (chances are likely they will end the same as this ruling). so we will be looking at 36 (correct me if I'm wrong) states that allow same sex marriages soon.
    With this ruling 24 + DC. Then the remaining in-queue cases get resolved it will be 30 + DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    With this ruling 24 + DC. Then the remaining in-queue cases get resolved it will be 30 + DC.
    ahhh ok, missed a few of the details. anyway 11 damn states almost at once, maybe we can knock em all down by the end of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    ahhh ok, missed a few of the details. anyway 11 damn states almost at once, maybe we can knock em all down by the end of the year.
    I have no doubt there will be a couple states that will be holdouts until the SCOTUS acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    A lot of that has to do with our sensationalist media and 24 hour news cycle. A lot of the "world falling apart" stuff is nothing new.

    Of course there is new and scary things out there, so it's not entirely status quo either.
    Eh, the 24 hour news cycle and hyperconnectivity don't help necessarily, but people have always felt the "world is falling apart." I can't remember a time in my life people weren't saying that, and they were saying it long before I was born too. Just look at the Billy Joel song, "We Didn't Start the Fire" if you don't think tons of crappy stuff wasn't going on in the mid-1900s.
    'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
    Or a yawing hole in a battered head
    And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
    And there they lay I damn me eyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Eh, the 24 hour news cycle and hyperconnectivity don't help necessarily, but people have always felt the "world is falling apart." I can't remember a time in my life people weren't saying that, and they were saying it long before I was born too. Just look at the Billy Joel song, "We Didn't Start the Fire" if you don't think tons of crappy stuff wasn't going on in the mid-1900s.
    Doomsayers have existed for millennia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I have no doubt there will be a couple states that will be holdouts until the SCOTUS acts.
    For their love of the Constitution and the process it outlines, no doubt.

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    As a reminder, we don't allow sexuality discussion/debate here. However, since this is fairly major news, I realise that people will want to discuss this topic. So, in an effort to make sure dialogue can happen, please be sure to stick to the topic / legality of the issue rather than turning this into another sexuality debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Budong View Post
    Are you disappointed that the Supreme Court didn't make an actual ruling or are you disappointed that by rejecting the appeal they effectively killed same sex marriage bans in those states?
    He is against legality of gay marriage... Might be the only one in this thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budong View Post
    Are you disappointed that the Supreme Court didn't make an actual ruling or are you disappointed that by rejecting the appeal they effectively killed same sex marriage bans in those states?
    Hes disappointed because hes a Republican that can't tell people who they can or can't marry anymore. He's one of those that absolutely hates progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    He is against legality of gay marriage... Might be the only one in this thread...
    Nah Incredibale already posted. Saying its just another court that is legislating from the bench again. Meaning he didn't like it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I have no doubt there will be a couple states that will be holdouts until the SCOTUS acts.
    You mean like Mississippi? I mean they just ratified the amendment that disallowed slavery in 1995 lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    You mean like Mississippi?
    There was a thread quite a while ago where it was discussed which state would be the holdout. I think it pretty much came down to Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and maybe Florida or Texas.

    Although -- I can honestly see it going in all 50 states as long as people get the support to file the legal challenge. Each ruling that supports marriage equality will make a ruling against it that much harder to justify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    There was a thread quite a while ago where it was discussed which state would be the holdout. I think it pretty much came down to Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and maybe Florida or Texas.

    Although -- I can honestly see it going in all 50 states as long as people get the support to file the legal challenge. Each ruling that supports marriage equality will make a ruling against it that much harder to justify.
    I thought Texas's marriage ban was already over turned?http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.c...ediately.html/ Yes it was. So yeah I think it will be Alabama, Mississippi or Georgia since even Utah's was overturned already as well.

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