"The Man has to Pay for the Date" - No Different from Prostitution.

[diddle]

When you think about it, the only difference is that the women on dates are a bet rather than a guaranteed lay. I know this sounds misogynistic, and to a strong extent it it is.

I don't blame women who accept free things from men, I would do the same. Still, I do think it's rather shitty that all of my female friends consider it everyday life to get men to pay for their drinks at bars with no intention of engaging them in conversation or etc and then be surprised that they aggressively hit on them with expectations.

Basic decent person logic: "This lady wouldn't have accepted my offer to buy her a drink unless she was interested."

Every female friend I know and my wife has admitted to accepting such offers - drinks, dinner, etc, - without any intention of following through with the interested party.

That's fucked up and is just as much taking advantage of gender advantages as men do.

I've found that many women think of it as "Men already have enough advantages, might as well take advantage of my ability to sexually manipulate them to even the score." As I said I'd do the same, but it is a regressive trend in terms of equality.

Check yo' selves!

Edit: Men of course still have a ridiculously unfair advantage in life over women, just talking about a specific issue.

[Independent voter]

Ermmm, no.

[Deleted]

Christ, I swear this place gets more and more like mmo-chan every day.

[ShimmerSwirl]

The men who date these women are idiots. If you're going to let yourself be jerked around like that, you deserve a lighter wallet.

[Ichifails]

Ermmm, no.

Well kinda of... I, many others and probably you as well know girls that broke or refused relationships because they didn't get anything in return.
There's a pretty common thing said by girls in my country: "Bla bla and he didn't even treat me a Coke". Literally go to a bar and buy a 0.25ml Coke.
It usually goes along the lines of: "I broke up with X because I sucked his dick and he didn't even treat me a Coke".

Hence why I'd call those girls whores/prostitues. It has nothing to do with how many people they have sex with just the way the treat having sex.

[Ferg]

The men who date these women are idiots. If you're going to let yourself be jerked around like that, you deserve a lighter wallet.

Why is it okay for women to use this logic, but not men?

"The women who get drunk and raped are idiots. If you're going to let yourself get taken advantage of, you deserve to be forcefully penetrated against your will."

Literally your argument, with the roles reversed.

[Reg]

Perhaps it's because some men expect that if they buy something for a women, sex should be offered in return. Fight fire with fire.

[Deleted]

How did this need a new topic when there's already one on the first page. Contain the hatred!

[Independent voter]

What if she makes you pay and there's no sex? Then it's not prostitution.

[s_bushido]

boo-fucking-hoo

Calling all women who go on dates or go to bars prostitutes. Stay classy, MMO-C.


Although it would be interesting to see the difference between how much women pay for cosmetics and the like vs how much men pay for drinks/dinner.

[diddle]

Perhaps it's because some men expect that if they buy something for a women, sex should be offered in return. Fight fire with fire.

Not exactly, it's just that if a woman accepts a drink from you the logical conclusion is she's interested in you - yet if you ask most females it's more just why would you deny a free drink? Ignorance on both sides.

[Sledfang]

Every female friend I know and my wife has admitted to accepting such offers - drinks, dinner, etc, - without any intention of following through with the interested party.

Its a gift not a contract. She absolutely does not need to have an intention to follow through with anything, its her choice. There is no assumption that buying a girl something means that they owe you anything. If you do make that assumption, caveat emptor.

Men of course still have a ridiculously unfair advantage in life over women, just talking about a specific issue.

Advantage is mostly based on what socio-economic class you are in. So yes men still have a slight advantage in western society in certain areas, but really that pales in comparison to the more important factors, such as whether or not your parents are educated and well-networked. A female born into a middle class family will have much more of a "ridiculous advantage" over a male born into a lower class family. A male born today in a lower class family will likely not have a significant career advantage over a female born today in a lower class family. If you ment as far as muscles, then ya I would agree.

[diddle]

boo-fucking-hoo

Calling all women who go on dates or go to bars prostitutes. Stay classy, MMO-C.


Although it would be interesting to see the difference between how much women pay for cosmetics and the like vs how much men pay for drinks/dinner.

Not at all, just women whom take advantage of men offering them drinks et cetera and then are surprised that these men continue their advances.

[Crissi]

Not at all, just women whom take advantage of men offering them drinks et cetera and then are surprised that these men continue their advances.

Then maybe men need to stop thinking buying women stuff will gain their interest? Its an insulting way of showing interest in someone, vs just talking to them.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Is MMO-C turning into TheRedPill or something?

[BloodyAngel12]

Girls dont owe you shit and the quicker guys realize this, we could deal with this culture of entitlement to sex and forcibly taking it.

[diddle]

Advantage is mostly based on what socio-economic class you are born into. So yes men still have a slight advantage in western society in certain areas, but really that pales in comparison to the more important factors, such as whether or not your parents are educated and well-networked.

A slight advantage? Men have it much better than women in every sector of industry.

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Then maybe men need to stop thinking buying women stuff will gain their interest? Its an insulting way of showing interest in someone, vs just talking to them.

I went to a gay bar with my wife, a man offered me a drink - I thanked him yet denied it as I assumed he was interested in me and didn't want to lead him on.

[Imbalanced]

It's more like gambling than prostitution.

[Reg]

Not exactly, it's just that if a woman accepts a drink from you the logical conclusion is she's interested in you - yet if you ask most females it's more just why would you deny a free drink? Ignorance on both sides.

Then perhaps men should just stop buying drinks for random women in hopes of garnering their attention.

[Yarathir]

It's just one of those privileges women have that they always talk abou--- oh, I guess not. Anyway, it's not prostitution, it's just an expectation born from a history of chivalry. Or in radfemspeak: Patriarchy.