The Iron Horde DOES travel in time.

[Imnick]

The shard is connected to our timeline's universe, but it is broken. Some lack of precision isn't surprising.
And hell, if it's been a year between the end of Siege and the start of Warlords, perhaps it just is reconnecting in real time.

[Deleted]

The shard is connected to our timeline's universe, but it is broken. Some lack of precision isn't surprising.
And hell, if it's been a year between the end of Siege and the start of Warlords, perhaps it just is reconnecting in real time.

Please hold the line. We are trying to get your timeline back.
Your call is important to us!

[Aquamonkey]

The shard is connected to our timeline's universe, but it is broken. Some lack of precision isn't surprising.
And hell, if it's been a year between the end of Siege and the start of Warlords, perhaps it just is reconnecting in real time.

It hasn't. It's only been a few weeks/months. DW death to end of MoP took a year.

[huth]

It hasn't. It's only been a few weeks/months. DW death to end of MoP took a year.

Did they ever actually give any specific timeframe? It's some time after the trial, but i don't remember any announcement of how much.

[frangeek]

Did they ever actually give any specific timeframe? It's some time after the trial, but i don't remember any announcement of how much.

Sadly, there's not a definitive answer for this. But it's between several months to a couple of years.

[Aquamonkey]

According to Metzen (via Loreology) we're currently in year 31.

[Haven2011]

If you read the short story kairoz state that the shard links them to our time line so when they open the portal it link to our time only garrosh went back which split the time way up

[Imnick]

It hasn't. It's only been a few weeks/months. DW death to end of MoP took a year.

In that case, maybe time doesn't move at the same speed in every dimension until a stable portal is produced :P
There's lots of ways to handwave it.

[Maoli]

People are over-thinking this crap way too much. You're going to Draenor in it's prime. End of story. The technicalities are irrelevant and won't matter to the storyline in the future.

[schwarzkopf]

You do realise that over sufficiently large distances and speeds (e.g. instantaneous), travel is space is automatically travel in time.

[Aucald]

Person X (Garrosh) jumps into a time/space portal and travels time and dimensions, going from 2014 in Universe A to 1979 in Universe B. Unless the gradient of time's passing in Universes A and B are different (e.g. time passes faster or slower in B as opposed to A), for Person X the same quantity of time is passing in Universe B as it is in Universe A. So if we fast-forward a year or two in Universe A, going to our year 2016 - then Person X in Universe B will be experiencing 1981 of that universe. We don't know the exact time since Garrosh's trial in "War Crimes" to our jump into AU Draenor, but based on the available information that time-frame will be the same amount of time that has elapsed for Garrosh on the Draenor side of things.

[ShadowJester]

I hope its a "real time" type time travel situation, where 1 year preparing on AU Draenor = 1 year of time passed since his escape from MU Azeroth.

Because if its a more Doctor Who time travel situation where he could prepare for a year or two and then jump back to a few months or weeks after his escape, that'd be pretty dumb on Garrosh's part. Like yeah our forces might be weakened from the recent Siege we all just did, but why not travel back to say First War Azeroth where your technology would give you a vastly superior advantage and just rewrite all history. (but really thats what they should have done and saved it for a WoW2 history rewrite to retcon all lore New-52 style)

Anyway I don't know if that answers the OT stuff, but I guess its like, yes the definitely traveled in time as one place is 35 years in the past

[frangeek]

Person X (Garrosh) jumps into a time/space portal and travels time and dimensions, going from 2014 in Universe A to 1979 in Universe B. Unless the gradient of time's passing in Universes A and B are different (e.g. time passes faster or slower in B as opposed to A), for Person X the same quantity of time is passing in Universe B as it is in Universe A. So if we fast-forward a year or two in Universe A, going to our year 2016 - then Person X in Universe B will be experiencing 1981 of that universe. We don't know the exact time since Garrosh's trial in "War Crimes" to our jump into AU Draenor, but based on the available information that time-frame will be the same amount of time that has elapsed for Garrosh on the Draenor side of things.

Yes, exactly! This is what I tried to explain in the OT ! Obviously you only need to replace the years to the ones according to WoW's timeline, but that's pretty much it!

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Like yeah our forces might be weakened from the recent Siege we all just did, but why not travel back to say First War Azeroth where your technology would give you a vastly superior advantage and just rewrite all history. (but really thats what they should have done and saved it for a WoW2 history rewrite to retcon all lore New-52 style)

Because in order to power the Dark Portal, the Iron Horde had to use the Shard of Time Garrosh had. And this Shard was connected not only to our world in space, but also in time.

[MasterDinadan]

There are great fan theories how time travel works in Chrono Trigger, and I think similar concepts apply here.

WoD isn't really time travel - Garrosh didn't go to our past, he just went to a universe very much like ours. There are infinite alternate universes so it stands to reason that there are a lot of them similar to ours. Nevertheless, these concepts fit.

When a gate is created between two points of space and time, neither end is "fixed". The gate in Leene Square sends people back 400 years. If I go through in 1001, I will arrive in 601. In 1002, I will arrive in 602. At some point (say in 700/1100) the gate collapses. This is important because if the gates existed indefinitely, you'd have both ends existing in the same time.

In WoD, the gates aren't in the same timeline, so there is no problem with them existing indefinitely. The important thing is that waiting a minute to go through will result in me arriving a minute later on the other side.

So, the endpoint in not fixed in time and orcs from Draenor are not appearing in the same instant that Garrosh left Azeroth.

On the flip side, Garrosh could have spent many years in Draenor before getting the Shaman to open a portal.

Here's how it could look:
The moment Garrosh departs Azeroth is time 0.
AU 0 - Garrosh arrives in Draenor with a shard that has a snapshot of MU 0.
AU 2 - Garrosh has united Draenor orcs and gets the shaman to open a portal. Since they are using the snapshot from the shard, the portal connects to MU 0. At this point, the portal may be just a tiny hole in the fabric of spacetime that Azeroth is not aware of.
AU 3 - Since the portal stays synced after its creation, it now connects to MU 1. Garrosh has the shaman expand the portal and he can send his first Orc through.

The numbers are arbitrary, but this shows how Garrosh could be in Draenor for some length of time, and the return to an Azeroth where some time has passed, but not the same amount. He could only create a portal going to AU 0 because it's all that he had as a reference, but in the time that follows the creation of the portal, both ends travel through time at the same pace.

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And technically, aren't we all traveling through time (slowly, in one direction)?