1. #12041
    Quote Originally Posted by Evilmoo View Post
    So we got seraphim nerfed today which is actually a buff if you have a 4pc T21
    ? It's an even bigger nerf if you have 4p t21. With the 4p you could get some value out of two charges of ShoR every 30 seconds and still keep the +10% block, now you can only do that every 45 seconds.

  2. #12042
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    ? It's an even bigger nerf if you have 4p t21. With the 4p you could get some value out of two charges of ShoR every 30 seconds and still keep the +10% block, now you can only do that every 45 seconds.
    The amount of block you get with 4PC and seraphim + reducing stein on SoTR charges (with CD increase) is a buff, i get around 70% block with my current gear during seraphim.
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  3. #12043
    Quote Originally Posted by Evilmoo View Post
    The amount of block you get with 4PC and seraphim + reducing stein on SoTR charges (with CD increase) is a buff, i get around 70% block with my current gear during seraphim.
    Again, you are going to have less uptime on seraphim and less uptime on the 4pc buff (unless you waste SotR charges). How is this a buff?

  4. #12044
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Again, you are going to have less uptime on seraphim and less uptime on the 4pc buff (unless you waste SotR charges). How is this a buff?
    copied from discord.



    Sera changes - LATEST 7.3 PTR BUILD (Summarised posts by @blueprint21 ):
    With the change of the CD from 30s to 45s it will give you less SoTRs spent over an encounter length leading to a NET SoTR gain.
    Sera as a CD was already pretty dumb so you can't say you didn't see it coming.
    With this in combination with the additional 8% dmg gain (from 4% dmg buff to 12% dmg buff), its a overall DPS gain, and overall more survivability (for a seraphim build).

    Additional information

    In combination with the 4p when using Seraphim you will not be in the SoTR, therefore the bonus block gained from mastery + crit + 20% from 4p will actually give you a very large amount of block leading you to not "need" SoTR in this period. On my paladin on live in current gear this will be in the realms of 67% block, and with some gear inflation potentially 70%.
    zug zug

    what is it paladin, one zug is not enough for ya?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfNone View Post
    lore should be voluntary to the game. not obligatory.

  5. #12045
    Quote Originally Posted by Evilmoo View Post
    With the change of the CD from 30s to 45s it will give you less SoTRs spent over an encounter length leading to a NET SoTR gain.
    A gain in SotR buff uptime and less Seraphim may well be a good thing for the spec. But it does make the 4p weaker.

  6. #12046
    So btw the change to make it give 1k stats is only wowhead datamining bug or...?

    "Seraphim The Light temporarily magnifies your power, increasing your Haste, Critical Strike, Mastery, and Versatility by 1000.
    Consumes up to 2 charges of Shield of the Righteous, and lasts 8 sec per charge.
    Cooldown changed from 30 sec cooldown to 45 sec cooldown"


    http://www.wowhead.com/news=269075/p...rds-new-glyphs

  7. #12047
    Quote Originally Posted by Marrilaife View Post
    So btw the change to make it give 1k stats is only wowhead datamining bug or...?

    "Seraphim The Light temporarily magnifies your power, increasing your Haste, Critical Strike, Mastery, and Versatility by 1000.
    Consumes up to 2 charges of Shield of the Righteous, and lasts 8 sec per charge.
    Cooldown changed from 30 sec cooldown to 45 sec cooldown"


    http://www.wowhead.com/news=269075/p...rds-new-glyphs
    Ye it is a bug.
    zug zug

    what is it paladin, one zug is not enough for ya?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfNone View Post
    lore should be voluntary to the game. not obligatory.

  8. #12048
    its 1k stats at level 100

    at level 110 its 5.5k stats
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