Trinket Ratings - WW

[Above1487]

Hi,

What trinkets are looking like the BiS at the moment from Heroic Dungeons/PVP or from the auction house.

[Drayarr]

One that comes to mind is the Agi + on use multistrike from UBRS. Seems pretty potent.

Not sure how "good" the DMF Trinket it

[FayrenPickpocket]

From heroic dungeons. The one from the first boss in Everbloom and the first boss in UBRS. One's on use multistrike, and the other is proc'd haste for a little more regen which is really great.

[Gaje]

Im running with Asc/ChiEx and really liking the two mentioned. The haste proc really helps with our lower haste levels and proccing at the start of the fight gives us some more burst.

The Agi/On use MS is really nice for syncing with TEB and FoF. I macro mine to TEB.

[Juliansfist]

Curious how the PvP trinket and alchemy trinkets rate.

[Phallsalot]

Not sure how "good" the DMF Trinket it

I have asked this question in a couple threads now with no response. I am really curious as to whether it's worth it to save up cards for this trinket.

[Vishiz]

I have asked this question in a couple threads now with no response. I am really curious as to whether it's worth it to save up cards for this trinket.

the synergy it has with Gor'ashans(static agi/on use mastery) Is unreal. I def recommend getting it if you can pick it up for around 50k.

[Kelensan]

From heroic dungeons. The one from the first boss in Everbloom and the first boss in UBRS. One's on use multistrike, and the other is proc'd haste for a little more regen which is really great.

Even with the base agi on both of those being nerfed?

[Phallsalot]

the synergy it has with Gor'ashans(static agi/on use mastery) Is unreal. I def recommend getting it if you can pick it up for around 50k.

I'm assuming you mean Multistrike since mastery is our worst stat. And thank you for actually responding. I'm a scribe so I will continue to save my war cards for this trinket then.

[Vishiz]

yes sorry, multistrike is what i meant.

[Deleted]

There is also the trinket token available from garrison missions.

I wonder how does that fare, especially if it is possible to get a 630 or 645 version of it.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=114427

[Powell]

Turbulent Vial of Toxin seems like an incredibly powerful trinket with Serenity, as they share the same CD, so you can combine them and spam spenders with high mastery for additional tigereye brew stacks.
However, you only seem to be able to get it through a Garrison follower mission that gives you a 630 item that converts into a trinket based on your spec.

Not sure though, because Mastery is our worst stat, but it seems potent in combination with Serenity.

[Deleted]

UBRS trinket share cooldown with serenity and the proc is ms

proly that and the auchindoun(agi + crit) are the best from heroic dungeons

[Deleted]

Also the trinket from Everbloom's first boss (Agi + haste proc) is fairly decent.

[Deleted]

I'm using these two at the moment and haven't seen any better trinkets aside from maybe the DMF trinket.
Pajeet-Nov's Perpetual Puzzle
Gor'ashan's Lodestone Spike

[Deleted]

I have asked this question in a couple threads now with no response. I am really curious as to whether it's worth it to save up cards for this trinket.

If they don't buff it to 645, considering the actual proc (chance to gain 1396 critical strike for 20 sec. 15% chance, 115 sec cooldown), using the scale factors from simc (single target, serenity) it is a bit worst than few different 630 heroic trinkets.

Blood Seal of Azzakel (630) has 159 Agi + 159 Crit vs 117 Agi from the Skull of War (DMF) and 242sh~ crit (1396*20 sec uptime / 115 sec internal cd).

Blood Seal of Azzakel wins and it is not even the best one ..

[Deleted]

What about if they go with the changes so it would be

640 - 655 - 670 with upgrades?

[Deleted]

Depends a bit on your talent choice (especially the level 100 talent, because right now sims suggest that Ascension is way beyond ChiBrew). The MS trinket that dropps from the first boss in UBRS is a must, no matter what your talents are
If you're going with ChiEx than the Agi+Haste Trinket from the first boss in Everbloom is your best bet. With a Serenity build, you'll want either the Crit-Trinket from Azzakel in Auchindoun, or the Versatility trinket that drops from the second boss in Grimrail Depot (Sims are unclear whether Crit or Vers is better...most suggest Vers > Crit though)

[Deleted]

Now I am curious what are the ultimate trinket weights for pre raids. Every upgrade level of Inscription glyphs and LDSC included.

I got myself this from a mission.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=114549


Just wondering what would be absolutely best option to pair it with. Regardless of costs.

[Deleted]

Well,
I’ve made some deep testing using simcraft to obtain the scaling factors.

Depending on the fight one stat could be a bit more valuable than another but what comes to be very clear is that mastery is our worst stat by far, while any other one result to be quite close to each other.

Since the first simulations I've changed the profiled I'm using to get as close as possible on what should be the most common scenario. Over a month ago I was running sims using a kind of 630 BiS gear, while now it sounds more reasonable to use a 670 BiS set with Highmaul loot and a couple of world drops.

So here is the profile used for the new simulations:
http://www.wowhead.com/list=5305010/...el-670#1-items

head=torias_perseverance,id=118894
neck=reavers_nose_ring,id=113851,bonus_id=566,enchant_id=5320
shoulders=deep_walker_paulders,id=113661,bonus_id=566
back=cloak_of_creeping_necrosis,id=113657,bonus_id=566,enchant_id=5313
chest=chestguard_of_the_roaring_crowd,id=113601,bonus_id=566
wrists=bracers_of_spare_skin,id=113634,bonus_id=566
hands=treacherous_palms,id=113832,bonus_id=566
waist=waistgirdle_of_the_mountain,id=118886
legs=nether_blast_leggings,id=113856,bonus_id=566
feet=mountainwalkers_boots,id=113649,bonus_id=566
finger1=spellsink_signet,id=113843,bonus_id=566,enchant_id=5327
finger2=timeless_solium_band_of_the_assassin,id=118297,enchant_id=5327
trinket1=captive_microaberration,id=113853,bonus_id=566
trinket2=scales_of_doom,id=113612,bonus_id=566
main_hand=the_bladefist,id=113591,bonus_id=566,enchant_id=5334
off_hand=the_bladefist,id=113591,bonus_id=566,enchant_id=5334

All the Sims are done with the following options: Player Skill = good, World lag = 50ms, iterations = 100000, Length = 280-420 sec

Sim1:
Patchwerk, Num Enemies = 1, talents=0130023 (brew, xuen, serenity)

Sim2:
Helter Skelter, Num en=4, talents=1323322 (chiburst, serenity, xuen, chiex)

Sim3:
Light Movement, Num en=6, talents=1323312 (chiburst, serenity, rjw, chiex)


Here are the results:




Normalizing the results on agility = 1 and giving the following weight factors:

Sim1: weight 50%
Sim2: weight 30%
Sim3: weight 20%


The resulting factors are :




So basically while multistrike is the best stat for single fight, haste comes slightly ahead because of its weight on ChiEx encounters. Others still quite close with the exception on mastery which is horribad.

While reading the above information, please keep in mind that simulationcraft doesn't support SEF on encounters yet, few thing may result different once it will be implemented.

Sims are sims and using your brain is always a good choice while reading data and results.


Trinkets used:

Scales of Doom (M)
Captive Micro-Aberration (M)
Scales of Doom (H)
Captive Micro-Aberration (H)
Scales of Doom (N)
Skull of War - stage 3
Captive Micro-Aberration (N)
Lucky Double-Sided Coin
Skull of War - stage 2
Skull of War - stage 1
Grandiose Plans
Bloodmaw's Tooth
Primal Combatant's Insignia of Conquest
Blood Seal of Azzakel
Thundertower's Targeting Reticle
Munificent Emblem of Terror
Witherbark's Branch
Gor'ashan's Lodestone Spike
Turbulent Vial of Toxin
Kihra's Adrenaline Injector


Results:



Changelog:

3/12/2014 - trinket buffs
30/12/2014 - fixed pvp trinkets
30/12/2014 - changed the sim profile
30/12/2014 - changed weights on scaling factors
30/12/2014 - recalc factors after all the recent nerfs, SimulationCraft 6.0.3 - release 20


As always thanks in advance for any further feedback, cheers