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    Maelstrom Weapon - Hotfix!

    Maelstrom Weapon will no longer increase the damage or healing effects of spells that consume the Ancestral Swiftness buff

    An indirect nerf to Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning? Or am I not understanding this correctly?
    "Those mortal shells that we call bodies, are not ours to keep. The body is a gift of earth that must, one day, be returned from whence it came"

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    Basically if you try to insta-cast a 1-4 stack MW LB/CL with AS you lose the bonus from MW. Not an obvious nerf, but a nerf regardless. Lame as shit.
    Science the shit out of it!

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    Ah, an opportunity to demonstrate skill, eliminated.
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    Source? I'm not seeing this.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...trellen/simple (Enhancement PvE)
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...l/alamo/simple (Boomkin/Guardian, PvE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlix View Post
    Basically if you try to insta-cast a 1-4 stack MW LB/CL with AS you lose the bonus from MW. Not an obvious nerf, but a nerf regardless. Lame as shit.
    I haven't played my shaman in a while, so i'm not sure: In that scenario, are the MW stacks consumed as well?

    If so, you should get the buff. If not, you shouldn't. It clearly wouldn't be intended behavior to get the benefit of a consumable buff without actually consuming that buff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax Omen View Post
    Source? I'm not seeing this.
    Here: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16561637/#dec3
    "Those mortal shells that we call bodies, are not ours to keep. The body is a gift of earth that must, one day, be returned from whence it came"

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    Thank you, that wasn't showing up when I posted.

    So they're literally nerfing the worst dps class in the game. WTF.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...trellen/simple (Enhancement PvE)
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...l/alamo/simple (Boomkin/Guardian, PvE)

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    This is a fucking joke right? Coffee bird rygarius got drunk at work and made up hotfixed surely.

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    Isn't this meant to deal with Enhancement healing capabilities, which admittedly are somewhat high. I'm pretty sure they are working on the lack of damage, as a separate issue (or at least I hope so). It would make sense to do it that way...

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    Our healing is strong? Do you even play a shaman? This isn't 5.4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderdoll View Post
    Our healing is strong? Do you even play a shaman? This isn't 5.4.
    Yes I do, and I wasn't comparing anything to 5.4, but rather to the Elemental spec. While this hotfix does nerf the damage, it also severely hurts the burst healing. Something you could imagine they aren't very keen of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderdoll View Post
    Our healing is strong? Do you even play a shaman? This isn't 5.4.
    Elementals arent oom that fast and don't have to sacrifice proc damage to heal up (retris too have stronger heals and don't have to waste dps procs, just a GCD).

    Anyways, it is a justified hotfix, but it just adds to our very bad state in PVE AND PVP.

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    I didnt realise Elemental had access to Maelstrom Weapon.

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    This is a pretty dumb and unnecessary 'hotfix'
    And correct, elemental doesn't have access to maelstrom weapon

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    It's a nerf targeted at Enh healing in PVP not pve. I fully expect Enh DPS buffs to come so just be patient or reroll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volitar View Post
    It's a nerf targeted at Enh healing in PVP not pve. I fully expect Enh DPS buffs to come so just be patient or reroll.
    If it was a targeted nerf at healing why include the word "damage"?

    Why not specifically level it at Healing Surge?

    It was targeted at PVP?

    Oh they have time to take damage away but not give it?

    This is absolutely ludicrous.

    The only way I can see any justification for this is from a damage POV:

    They see our damage breakdown later on in the tier. They see LB is an extremely large portion and hardcasting is very prominent. In an effort to limit the hardcasting effect on our damage, they remove the benefit from 1-4 MW (and also dropping the skillcap) and are planning to realign that damage somewhere.

    Why would that require a hotfix and now? Thrall only knows.
    Last edited by Murderdoll; 2014-12-04 at 08:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderdoll View Post
    If it was a targeted nerf at healing why include the word "damage"?

    Why not specifically level it at Healing Surge?

    Oh they have time to take damage away but not give it?

    This is absolutely ludicrous.
    There can be many reasons for this, one of them is likely that it is a lot easier, code wise, to remove an effect, rather than changing it to something more complex. Also, it is not unthinkable that it could produce a rather large damage burst in PvP as well, something they are trying to get rid of. I really doubt that they did this to nerf the PvE capability of Enhancements...

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    I can't believe that people are crying so much over losing 40% dmg buff to ONE lightning bolt every 1,5MINUTE.
    (sarcasm) I'm pretty sure that you will see the difference (/sarcasm)

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    Im fairly certain if you were n a ship taking on water and suddenly someone floated by and gave you a smaller pail to bail out the water...you'd bitch too...regardless on how much less screwed you are, it shows general contempt


    they know there is a damage problem...so instead of fixing that first THEN adjusting for this MSW issue (which I still can't figure out...unless it was to make AS less useful) they decided to punch first

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