Hatred pulled from greenlight

[Ulaenyth]

So steam pulled hatred off of the greenlight today hours after going up and getting 13,000+ votes( here is a link to there website showing the greenlight stats http://bit.ly/1vLTrl0 ) for it, while the game has been under the games media spotlight recently because lets face it the game is just about mass murdering people. I don't get why steam pulled it while they have the controversial postal game on steam which is just an older game of the same concept sure hatred has some really bad media attention but shouldn't it be our choice if we buy the game not the company's from removing a way of getting it?

Also in NZ and Australia recently some big company's that usual had great games deals have pulled R18( The warehouse NZ) titles from there shelves or GTA V (target/kmart Aus).

It seems there is a bit more censorship of what games people can and can't buy starting to go around and I am interested in hearing what people think about this should company's be able to pull games because of bad media publicity or should the choice still be ours as the consumer? While I know this is only a new thing to happen will ti happen more will 2015 be the year we see games come under even harsher censorship because of religious and feminism groups among many others?

[Shrouded]

Valve taking an increased interest in curation and moderation of their own service is a good thing in my book.

[Karon]

There is a big difference between postal and Hatred.

In Postal (2) you are supposed to buy milk. In Hatred you are supposed to kill people.

That makes Postal (2) Ok and Hatred not Ok.

/sarcasm

[Vitaminjoe]

Postal as randumb and sporadic as it is. The actual goal and objective isnt exactly commit mass murder and see how much "Terrorist" like acts of slaughtering innocent people you can deal before you die. I don't fully believe everything should be censored, but I also think that Steam has the choice and rightfully can take off a game depending on how they feel it would effect there business regardless of how many votes it got. I for one could care less, but am actually glad Steam has some decency to take the garbage off there program. Now if only they would do that for the other silly ""Indie" games that literal the store.

[Tech614]

One less piece of shovel ware on steam? Sounds good.

Now they should step up and get rid of most of the garbage that has flooded their product over the last 2-3 years through indy dev circle jerking.

[phantummy]

I'm not too familiar with their rules for greenlight but did it break any rules? If not then I cannot support their decision.

[Pengalor]

I'm not too familiar with their rules for greenlight but did it break any rules? If not then I cannot support their decision.

Their only 'rule' up to this point is the content can't be 'offensive or violate their Terms of Service'. So basically one incredibly vague rule that is entirely subjective. This is purely a kneejerk reaction because of people who have nothing better to do than be offended at a product no one is forcing them to buy, play, or even acknowledge the existence of.

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Valve taking an increased interest in curation and moderation of their own service is a good thing in my book.

No, they are just bending for people who are too sensitive and hypocritical to allow the game to be on Steam. They don't give a shit about curating the service or they would have started a long time ago.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Their only 'rule' up to this point is the content can't be 'offensive or violate their Terms of Service'. So basically one incredibly vague rule that is entirely subjective. This is purely a kneejerk reaction because of people who have nothing better to do than be offended at a product no one is forcing them to buy, play, or even acknowledge the existence of.

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No, they are just bending for people who are too sensitive and hypocritical to allow the game to be on Steam. They don't give a shit about curating the service or they would have started a long time ago.

Its a great rule for them.. they can leave anything up that they want... this way.. if the media shits its pants about a certain game, they CAN take it down under the ToS... or just leave it if they feel like.

[Ulaenyth]

Its a great rule for them.. they can leave anything up that they want... this way.. if the media shits its pants about a certain game, they CAN take it down under the ToS... or just leave it if they feel like.

But they shouldn't be able to do that just because it's getting bad media attention if everyone did that then gta v never would of hit shelves or saints row for that matter.

[Lolretadin]

Valve taking an increased interest in curation and moderation of their own service is a good thing in my book.

While I understand the sentiment, when there is an overwhelming amount of community support for a game, pulling it and saying "The community had issues with the game" is a completely bullshit reason.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

But they shouldn't be able to do that just because it's getting bad media attention if everyone did that then gta v never would of hit shelves or saints row for that matter.

That was sorta what I was trying to get to, that ambiguous rules are bullshit for that very reason. I doubt this game is in any way more violent than GTA, or very many others.

[Tech614]

But they shouldn't be able to do that just because it's getting bad media attention if everyone did that then gta v never would of hit shelves or saints row for that matter.

Uhh, so if you own a service you shouldn't be allowed to control what is sold on your service?

lul wat, did you really just say that?

If retailers didn't want to sell GTA5 they can not sell GTA5 that is their right. You can feel free to not shop with a company you disagree with that is your right. Seems you have a false idea of how the world should work.

[Shrouded]

While I understand the sentiment, when there is an overwhelming amount of community support for a game, pulling it and saying "The community had issues with the game" is a completely bullshit reason.

Oh, I get that, and to a point I agree - I suppose my point was more "if this is the start of Valve actually giving a damn about the overall quality of the games on their service, it's a small price to pay". I realize that's a big if, though.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Uhh, so if you own a service you shouldn't be allowed to control what is sold on your service?

lul wat, did you really just say that?

If retailers didn't want to sell GTA5 they can not sell GTA5 that is their right. You can feel free to not shop with a company you disagree with that is your right. Seems you have a false idea of how the world should work.

No one is mentioning "rights" except you.

[bmjclark]

Valve can pull a game for whatever reason they choose. If they want to pull it because they find it offensive or they got complaints from some people, that's their choice. All in all, it's their choice what games they want to support on steam.

[Donald Hellscream]

I wonder if they will pull of GTA V aswell because feminazi's are bitching about being able to mercilessly slaughter thousands of women in that game too..

Really I don't get how people can get so bent out of shape over a fucking game.

Oh well I will just have to get the game elsewhere.. One way another that game will be mine.

[Dudemanguy]

I find it ironic that Hatred is a big no-no, yet Valve greenlit BoneTown.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...htext=BoneTown

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

I find it ironic that Hatred is a big no-no, yet Valve greenlit BoneTown.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...htext=BoneTown

I knew what i was in for as soon as the music started.

[Dhrizzle]

But they shouldn't be able to do that just because it's getting bad media attention if everyone did that then gta v never would of hit shelves or saints row for that matter.

If 9/10 retailers refused to stock GTA the 10th would make an absolute fortune. Failing that, there's always this internet thing people have been talking about.

[Paula Deen]

Hatred isn't okay, but the following is:

http://youtu.be/A8cisDuWKFE