6.2 Retribution Theorycraft & Discussion

[Rawrzillasor]

How does weapon speed affect us currently? I'm asking because I just snagged http://www.wowhead.com/item=118740/b...&bonus=642:644 which is an 5 ilvl over my current weapon.

Is the faster weapon speed basically negate the gain of 5 ilvls?

with weapons 99.9% of the time the higher ilvl item is better last time i simmed i think wep dmg was 5:1 of any other stat

[sexybeast]

That feel when you were hoping for that but got HWF DC instead -_______________-

At least DC is useful... I keep getting chests and heads from mine :/

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Meanwhile my guild's other ret paladin had his cache delayed compared to everyone else, and he got the mythic cache. He also got MWF Treads of the Defiler from it, talk about luck.

[Butosai]

How does weapon speed affect us currently? I'm asking because I just snagged http://www.wowhead.com/item=118740/b...&bonus=642:644 which is an 5 ilvl over my current weapon.

Is the faster weapon speed basically negate the gain of 5 ilvls?

Weapon speed is normalized

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Anyone know why Sol is using Seal of Righteousness on Council?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...auras&source=3

[statphantom]

Anyone know why Sol is using Seal of Righteousness on Council?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...auras&source=3

i posted about this a while ago, sor will basically double the damage of edh since every sor hit puts a stack on where as censor only the originaly first hit does, so sor on 2 targets, sot on single

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i posted about this a while ago, sor will basically double the damage of edh since every sor hit puts a stack on where as censor only the originaly first hit does, so sor on 2 targets, sot on single

Ah, that clears things up, thanks. Is it worth switching to SoR when an add spawns (for example on Kilrogg or Velhari), and what about fights like Mannoroth and Xhul, where there's waves of adds?

[statphantom]

Ah, that clears things up, thanks. Is it worth switching to SoR when an add spawns (for example on Kilrogg or Velhari), and what about fights like Mannoroth and Xhul, where there's waves of adds?

zhul definitly, manna yes untill imps stop spawning, and kilrogg and valhari nop stick with truth, not up for long enough.

[Rawrzillasor]

zhul definitly, manna yes untill imps stop spawning, and kilrogg and valhari nop stick with truth, not up for long enough.

not sure why you wouldnt use SoR for velhari when adds are up. the adds are up for plenty of time and the dmg with EDH is for sure worth it over SoT. also its not like the add doesnt need to die, he still does need to be passively cleaved by almost every class aslong as it isnt a major dps loss.

[Cruciata]

not sure why you wouldnt use SoR for velhari when adds are up. the adds are up for plenty of time and the dmg with EDH is for sure worth it over SoT. also its not like the add doesnt need to die, he still does need to be passively cleaved by almost every class aslong as it isnt a major dps loss.

Really think it's worth using SoR rather than stacking SoT on two targets?

[Tarkuslumina]

Really think it's worth using SoR rather than stacking SoT on two targets?

If you have an EDH then SoR 2 target is better than stacking SoT 2 target. It's that simple.

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censure dmg is low compared to full stacks at the second target all the times

[chomaK]

Hello everybody!, so Finally i have my Heroic EDH :P, should i use SoR always that adds are up for more than 20 secs?. I mean whats the breaking point in using SoT or SoR.
Example on Mannoroth, xhul adds go down pretty quick, in hellfire assault also. So Which bosses u are going SoR on adds i think its easier to write 3 than 10 :P. Ty!

[Kanael]

Does anyone know where the 715 Skull of War stand in the trinket ranking? My other pally has the worst luck and still using M Vial and a WFSocketed Rumbling Pebble >_<

[OGXanos]

Quick question is a 695 unending hunger worth switching in for a 685 vial of shadows?

[Kanael]

^ if you have the legendary ring im sticking with Vial

[OGXanos]

^ if you have the legendary ring im sticking with Vial

Not yet. Still using 17H 4pc other trinkets are 705 Chipped prisim and 685 Horn of screaming spirits.

Edit: 2pc T18N now.

[RagnorZ]

If you have an EDH then SoR 2 target is better than stacking SoT 2 target. It's that simple.

Yeah it's also pretty annoying to keep up censure on two targets now with T18 when you don't judgement very much (mouseover/focus judge) and/or you're using LoV (don't want to switch if target is too far away from your cs focus target).

[Arrent]

Anyone have a WA string for LoV? I used the search function but came up empty handed.

[wellsdaddy]

Is anyone else still left with such an empty feeling regarding LoV? Even on legitimate fights where you're able to essentially never drop your stacks, I'm still completely underwhelmed by it. Even in my own sims, light movement, which is going to give it relatively high uptime, the 720 version of the trinket is simming ~ 400 dps higher than the 716 w/socket UH I have. Perhaps I just expected so much more out of a "class" trinket. At the moment, it feels like it needs higher stacking capabilities, or a higher % dmg done per stack, within reason. The price just doesn't seem to match the potential payoff with this piece yet, I maintain hope of some tweaking on it.