Experiencing lower FPS, occured a few days ago.

[NintenDoingIt]

So, I recently built myself a new omputer(a few weeks ago) and it has been running smoothly as in 120+ FPS pretty much everywhere on Ultra. But just a few days ago its now down to 50-60 in my garrison and about 40-45 in big cities like Warspear/Orgrimmar.

Its still playable but Its a noticable difference and I would like to know what I could do to check if something is wrong.
I tried without Addons, nothing changed.
I repaired and re-installed everything, nothing changed.

Is there any other step I could take to see whats wrong?

Also here is my build:
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 4GB PhysX CUDA
Intel Core i7-4790K
4.0GHz Quadcore, Z97 Mainboard, 16GB DDR3
Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB 2.5" OEM
SATA3.0, 7mm, 450/450MB/s read/write, SandForce®
Corsair CX 750M, 750W PSU
ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 6x Molex
Corsair H110 Hydro Series CPU Cooler
115x/2011/2011-3/1366, AM2(+)/AM3(+)/FM1/FM2, 1700 RPM, 94 CFM, 35 dBA

Kind regards and thanks in advance!

[chazus]

Overclocking your CPU will help, if it isn't already (and if it isnt, why not?)

Other than that, sounds about normal. Heavy CPU areas (Garrison, Cities, Raids) hammer even the best systems. 50-60 is pretty decent for those areas. Most people without a system like that get 20-30

[NintenDoingIt]

I actually have no knowledge of how to Overclock but the friend who helped me build it will help me do it if I ever feel its needed.

Well then, wonder if its just me just now noticing it going down to those numbers? Haha

[Nuckels]

More people in busy cities = lowr fps, i'd say your fps is fine, what are your temps at?

[NintenDoingIt]

Yeah, Im familiar with the more the busy screen the lower number. Just thought it looked very much lower than usual, might just be the hunk of people coming back this expansion too and thats why I notice it now and not earlier.

Temps around: 20-28 from what I can usually see.

[chazus]

I'd recommend overclocking to increase performance... Largely because you paid an extra $150 or so specifically in parts to do that.

[NintenDoingIt]

Yeah I paid the extra to be able to overclock, you are so right, when it came to be needed!
Ill get my friend on that. It just didnt feel necessary as it ran so perfectly at startup!

[flux0r]

that happened to me with a gtx 970. had to go into 3d settings and set multi-display /mixed gpu acceleration to single display performance. also set power management mode to prefer maximum performance. after that it was back to normal.

[NintenDoingIt]

I went into 3D Settings and I can find the Multi-Display and Power Management settings but when I try to Set them they reset back as soon as I close the NVIDIA Control Panel, am I totally missing something?

[Thunderhell]

i have the same somewhat problem. Where ever I am , my Fps jumps up and down the whole time. it just came out of nowehere.

In garrisons, out of it same with cities and dont mention high raids. from a 100 down to 40 and up again... with Vsync on is the same only with 60 fps jumping down and up again. Any suggestions ? playing wow for 8 years now and never happened before.

Cpu is intel i5 3470 at 3.2 ghz and msi r9 270x gaming 2 gb and corsair vengeance blue at 1600mhz

[potis]

Not even sure why people recommend overclocking a 4790K, yeah it can be be done, awesome sauce and e-peen...but its not a 4690K.

The turbo boost itself on this amazing piece is more than enough, and the amateur overclocker wont OC properly/well past 4.5-4.6, therefor the difference from 4.4 to 4.6 is non-existent.

Overclocking wont do much for you (You might gain 5% in maximum FPS and 5% in minimum FPS if lucky ) assuming turbo-boost on haswell's works as it should.

If you had a 4690K i would highly recommend it, but with a 4790K you wont understand much of a difference..Maybe more stable minimum FPS dives, but thats about it.

Huge difference going from 3.5/3.8 to 4.5 than from 4./4.4 to 4.5.

Now if you make it to 5Ghz, then thats a difference story OP and there will be ~25-30% gain but not every chip can do it, and generally past a certain point its harder to maintain stability, maybe you have one of the good chips, so good luck.

I went into 3D Settings and I can find the Multi-Display and Power Management settings but when I try to Set them they reset back as soon as I close the NVIDIA Control Panel, am I totally missing something?

Did you hit "Apply"? And just set the global settings like that.

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i have the same somewhat problem. Where ever I am , my Fps jumps up and down the whole time. it just came out of nowehere.

In garrisons, out of it same with cities and dont mention high raids. from a 100 down to 40 and up again... with Vsync on is the same only with 60 fps jumping down and up again. Any suggestions ? playing wow for 8 years now and never happened before.

Cpu is intel i5 3470 at 3.2 ghz and msi r9 270x gaming 2 gb and corsair vengeance blue at 1600mhz

Sounds like triple-buffering is on.

[Marxman]

Not even sure why people recommend overclocking a 4790K, yeah it can be be done, awesome sauce and e-peen...but its not a 4690K.

... Because it's free performance gain? Why in the hell wouldn't you do it? You get 10-20% more performance for absolutely no cost (beyond the slightly higher original cost of components). Recommending people not overclock their overclockable hardware is silly.

[potis]

... Because it's free performance gain? Why in the hell wouldn't you do it? You get 10-20% more performance for absolutely no cost (beyond the slightly higher original cost of components). Recommending people not overclock their overclockable hardware is silly.

Because there is no actual gain with the 4790K.

The turbo mode at 4.4 on the first 2 cores gives the same performance as a 4.5Ghz overclock which most people even fail to reach.

For any 4790K owner to see a difference, he needs to OC at 4.8Ghz or so compared to the turbo mode and good luck getting a chip that lets you.

Of course turbo mode isnt perfect or always works the way it should but still most games barely use more than the 2 cores, therefor unless the OP has a good chip to reach 4.8 + there is basically no point to even OC apart from saying "I overclocked my CPU" and as far as i have read the 4790K does not like to OC easily past 4.6 and it tops out at 4.8 and thats with LUCK.

Its not a 4690K that goes from 3.5 to 4.4-4.5 and you see a 30% gain, thats why we always recommend 4690K because it can reach 4.5Ghz easily for 100 euro less, which in reality comes to 20euro less since you end up buying a 80e cooler anyway.

While the 4790K reaches the same if OCed which barely provides any difference than its turbo mode therefor it doesnt even matter if you OC the 4790K, unless you are running Dragon Age 3 and a couple more games that use all the threads to actually see a difference, and in the end those games are GPU related single players, again no actual point. (Dollars euro you get the point).

A 4790K is not a 4690K, there is a massive difference going 3.5/3.8 to 4.5 which is roughly a 30% increase, and going 4/4.4 to 4.5 and i doubt the OP is such an amazing overclocker that he can hit 4.8+ overclocks 24/7 stable to actually see any difference compared to his 4.4 turbo mode, which even if he achieves, 400hz is a..10-11% increase and thats if he is lucky with the damn chip.

Just because he was "informed" which is misinformed in this case and went for a 4790K with a H110, doesnt mean anything, unless he does video compression and editing, then okay :3

And you do not overclock for the damn maximum FPS gain, you overclock for the minimum FPS spikes that occur so the spike wont be at 20 FPS but it will be at 30 FPS and your screen wont tear up like a piece of paper which is what you do with any i5 and i7 APART FROM THE 4790K BECAUSE ITS ALREADY CLOCKED NEAR ITS LIMITS.

[chazus]

@Potis - Everything you say is absolutely true. And I agree on the point your making. There isn't a huge difference for overclocking a 4790K.

HOWEVER

That said, I think it should be noted a few things.

-It will really only be at 4.2ghz, because it will be using all four cores most likely. That still doesn't negate your statement though
-If you're going to spend that much money on a system, you damn well better squeeze out every drop you can. 10% might not seem like much, but its more than nothing.
-Why not? chances are, if anything you're system will run better once the BIOS has been tweaked to not use auto-voltage.

There isn't really a problem at hand. The OP's performance/results are normal for the situation, but OC'ing -will- help a little. It won't fix the perceived problem (there isn't one) but it will help.

[potis]

I agree Chazus, i never said he shouldnt do it or attempt it.

I am just informing that even if he does, because of the misinformation passed around in these forums, every one expects OC to be some magical 100 FPS gain and it has gotten out of hand especially this last year.

Sure, a 4690K will see a massive difference because its a 700/1Ghz gain and this was true for every i5 and i7 up to 4790K which you do not see any difference at all since the turbo mode is insanely high.

The OP is expecting to have 100 FPS while in reality he will gain, 4 minimum FPS by taking it to 4.5Ghz and 9-10 if he manages 4.8 which i doubt it since only a few chips do.

[chazus]

I honestly forgot that the 4790K clocks so high, to be fair. I suppose it could be seen as "pay to win" in that the high priced i7 comes with built in overclock.

[NintenDoingIt]

Did you hit "Apply"? And just set the global settings like that.

From what I can tell, yeah I am hitting Apply and all its doing is reseting back to Original Settings when closed.
Really feels like Im missing something obvious...

Also Thanks everyone for the recommendations, help and everything, I really appreciate it!

[potis]

From what I can tell, yeah I am hitting Apply and all its doing is reseting back to Original Settings when closed.
Really feels like Im missing something obvious...

Also Thanks everyone for the recommendations, help and everything, I really appreciate it!

Then download this http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html the last version 13.5.4.2 or something and run it.

Click on the bottom right corner so it wont install windows drivers when you restart.

Basically it will take you into safe mode, you run the "Clean everything" and it will.

Then re-install your GPU drivers..

[Thunderhell]

Not even sure why people recommend overclocking a 4790K, yeah it can be be done, awesome sauce and e-peen...but its not a 4690K.

The turbo boost itself on this amazing piece is more than enough, and the amateur overclocker wont OC properly/well past 4.5-4.6, therefor the difference from 4.4 to 4.6 is non-existent.

Overclocking wont do much for you (You might gain 5% in maximum FPS and 5% in minimum FPS if lucky ) assuming turbo-boost on haswell's works as it should.

If you had a 4690K i would highly recommend it, but with a 4790K you wont understand much of a difference..Maybe more stable minimum FPS dives, but thats about it.

Huge difference going from 3.5/3.8 to 4.5 than from 4./4.4 to 4.5.

Now if you make it to 5Ghz, then thats a difference story OP and there will be ~25-30% gain but not every chip can do it, and generally past a certain point its harder to maintain stability, maybe you have one of the good chips, so good luck.



Did you hit "Apply"? And just set the global settings like that.

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Sounds like triple-buffering is on.

Amazing how someone knows the problem right on. Solved, thanks a lot and happy holidays !