Can we change the 6 win arena rewards?

[Drsolders]

I assume it is their greedy way of making money that they set it up like this.

3 wins 25-35g
4 wins 40-60g
5 wins 45-60g
6 wins 75-85g
7 wins 150-160g

Like why is it such a huge plateau? There is absolutely no reason for it go from meh gold to a refund over 1 win.

Why not a smooth gold increase?

3 wins 40-50
4 wins 50-70
5 wins 70-90
6 wins 100-120
7 wins 150-160

[Nikkaszal]

I assume it is their greedy way of making money that they set it up like this

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[Drsolders]

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So if Blizz is being greedy calling it wrong now? That also still doesn't address that there is a HUGE gap in gold. The only possible reason they would put a gap like that is if they want more people paying for arena.

[Dracodraco]

So if Blizz is being greedy calling it wrong now? That also still doesn't address that there is a HUGE gap in gold.

How are they greedy? You're the one wanting more gold. I mean. The gold is created out of thin air. Them giving you less doesn't mean they're "greedy". You wanting more is, though.

[Drsolders]

How are they greedy? You're the one wanting more gold. I mean. The gold is created out of thin air. Them giving you less doesn't mean they're "greedy". You wanting more is, though.

Then why even give gold at all until 7 wins? If they don't feel like balancing it, why not just give a pack until 7 wins and a refund when you do hit it. Why should anyone call for balance in any of their systems? I forgot I'm greedy because I wan't a game that is as balanced as possible, and have higher standards for Blizz compared to some crappy indie creator.

[Peroxidex]

Then why even give gold at all until 7 wins? If they don't feel like balancing it, why not just give a pack until 7 wins and a refund when you do hit it. Why should anyone call for balance in any of their systems? I forgot I'm greedy because I wan't a game that is as balanced as possible, and have higher standards for Blizz compared to some crappy indie creator.

You're ignoring the bonus prize pool, they increase the base gold reward while decreasing the bonus rewards. 6 wins can give 45-60 gold while 7 wins only has 20-30 gold. The most you can get from 6 wins would give you 205g while 7 wins would be 220g.

I would also recommend you read about Team 5, an internal development team at Blizzard responsible for Hearthstone. They started as a tiny group and were only 15 strong when Hearthstone was announced in 2013. They are not an indie team, but it's not the Blizzard powerhouse with 100s of developers like you would expect.

http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Team_5

Truth be told, you won't get many real replies here as this is not the appropriate place to voice this suggestion. I would recommend Blizzard's forum as a starting point if you were want to see this become a reality.

[Vankrys]

fact of the matter, arena is a gold sink period.

mathematically, only about 9% of player entering the arena managed 7 wins or more
http://666kb.com/i/ckgstzhewu5els6og.jpg

89%, that is pretty much all casual players can almost never (on a regular basis i precise) get 7 or more win. It's a system that is made so that you'd want, once in a while perhaps once a month or even once a semester, drop $20 to get some more arena games, because you happen to have some free time.

it's the basis of F2P model, give enough the players to suscitate their appetite but not enough so they feel satiated, keep them hungry for more.

[xenogear3]

Compare to "casual" mode, I was surprised that how easy Arena is.

My guess the true new players had tough time in "casual" mode.
They are forced to play Arena.

Even 1 or 2 win, they can get 30 gold.

Also 15 people for a card game is about right.

[medievalman1]

Then why even give gold at all until 7 wins? If they don't feel like balancing it, why not just give a pack until 7 wins and a refund when you do hit it. Why should anyone call for balance in any of their systems? I forgot I'm greedy because I wan't a game that is as balanced as possible, and have higher standards for Blizz compared to some crappy indie creator.

Please tell us what you would consider balanced? At this moment the only thing you've suggested, aside from 'MOAR BALANCESING', is no gold until 7 wins and then a full refund. That seems incredibly unbalanced compared to the slow but exponentially more rewarding system in place now.

[Drsolders]

Please tell us what you would consider balanced? At this moment the only thing you've suggested, aside from 'MOAR BALANCESING', is no gold until 7 wins and then a full refund. That seems incredibly unbalanced compared to the slow but exponentially more rewarding system in place now.

Did you even bother reading the initial post or are you blind? I suggested that the gold be evened out through the wins. so it doesn't just double from going up 1 win.

[Mahourai]

Did you even bother reading the initial post or are you blind? I suggested that the gold be evened out through the wins. so it doesn't just double from going up 1 win.

It doesn't double. You just made up the numbers in your first post.

[Drsolders]

It doesn't double. You just made up the numbers in your first post.

http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Arena yup totally made it up

[Vankrys]

It doesn't double. You just made up the numbers in your first post.

those number are known for a year and half already. Not saying it's common knowledge, but your claim that these numbers are made up is just showing ignorance and complacency.

[Mahourai]

those number are known for a year and half already. Not saying it's common knowledge, but your claim that these numbers are made up is just showing ignorance and complacency.

Attempting to paint 3 wins as giving you only 25-35g while ignoring the fact that you have a guaranteed additional reward is ridiculous. To be clear, the guaranteed gold figure is accompanied by a random reward which is frequently more gold, and getting a shitty random reward like a common improves the rest of the prize pool. The gold figures in the OP ignore both of these facts in order to paint Arena rewards as more miserly than they actually are.

EDIT:

In addition, the ranges on the Hearthstone wiki are taken from self-reported data, and the chart comes with a disclaimer that its figures are not accurate.

[Vankrys]

and what is your point exactly?

that 3 win might rewards 200G, ir never does. An average is an average. you can get lower, you can get higher.
fact of the matter, i agree with the OP, so many time i lost at 6 wins and got a mere 50 gold (yup fifty, five-oh) for my trouble, 1 more win and it's a guaranteed 150 gold

i would appreciate a smoother curve.

[Mahourai]

An average is an average. you can get lower, you can get higher.
fact of the matter, i agree with the OP, so many time i lost at 6 wins and got a mere 50 gold (yup fifty, five-oh) for my trouble, 1 more win and it's a guaranteed 150 gold

The figures in the OP are not averages. The average gold figure is much higher. Getting only 50 gold for 6 wins is one of the worst possible outcomes.

[Vankrys]

again, what is your main drive in this?
why are you fighting the idea that 6 wins rewards shold be buffed, what is your angle?

[medievalman1]

Did you even bother reading the initial post or are you blind? I suggested that the gold be evened out through the wins. so it doesn't just double from going up 1 win.

Yep, you're right, I definitely overlooked your evening out suggestion. Instead I latched onto your other suggestion of:

Then why even give gold at all until 7 wins? If they don't feel like balancing it, why not just give a pack until 7 wins and a refund when you do hit it. Why should anyone call for balance in any of their systems? I forgot I'm greedy because I wan't a game that is as balanced as possible, and have higher standards for Blizz compared to some crappy indie creator.

Perhaps I was also blinded by your unconstructive proclamations of Blizzards' greed. /shrug

[Mahourai]

again, what is your main drive in this?
why are you fighting the idea that 6 wins rewards shold be buffed, what is your angle?

It would be nice if six wins gave out 500g and a blowjob, but making the case for it by providing very misleading figures for what gold you get at what win is not the way to go.

[Drsolders]

The figures in the OP are not averages. The average gold figure is much higher. Getting only 50 gold for 6 wins is one of the worst possible outcomes.

I'm not talking about average, I am talking about base. If they need to reduce the bonus gold amount and increase the base amount that is cool. The simple fact is the base amount (you are guaranteed this amount at this win #) is 50% lower in 6 wins then it is in 7 wins. That is ridiculous considering you can also get bonus rewards at 7 wins.