Affliction exec phase

[kornoth]

Is it the right behaviour that the drain soul's perk : 100% additionnal damage under 20% is working only on drain soul's ticks? and not the the extra dot damage it procs? drain soul goes from 6k to 12 damage, but the drain soul : Agony stays at 7k damage and does not get buffed by the perk.

[Deleted]

well you need to differentiate between the dmg done by the dot's ticks and drain soul's bonus ticks which is prolly why you'll see the drain soul do more dmg and your dots not do more dmg.

[kornoth]

I'm not talking about dots damage, but about drain soul's bonus dot ticks. Only drain soul ticks ( damage of drain soul ticks on recount) are buffed by 100%. The extra dot ticks provided by drain soul stays at 40% of dots damage, it's not 80%.

[Urgganzish]

I'm not talking about dots damage, but about drain soul's bonus dot ticks. Only drain soul ticks ( damage of drain soul ticks on recount) are buffed by 100%. The extra dot ticks provided by drain soul stays at 40% of dots damage, it's not 80%.

oO could you please post logs or screenies because if that's the case its fairly broken.

[kornoth]

Sorry my logs are private and we can't clearly see it in recount. But if you take any log of an affliction warlock on the butcher for exemple, you can see that the damage of drain soul is increased by 100% for the last 20% of the boss but the damage of the agony tick of drain soul is still 40% of the agony dot. I really don't think this is the right behavior and this is a bug that nerf our execute a lot.

[Deleted]

40% of 100% dot ticks or 40% of 200% dot ticks... otherwise it would double dip.

[kornoth]

40% of 100% dot ticks or 40% of 200% dot ticks... otherwise it would double dip.

I just don't understand what's the meaning of your sentance?
Drain soul causes your dots to do an additionnal 40% of their damage everytime drain soul ticks. The additionnal damage can crit and MS on their own. We don't care either it's 40% of 100% or 40% of 200%.
It just should be 80% of the actual dots under 20% of the target because it's a damage coponent of drain soul.

[Taalyn]

Drain Soul does not increase the damage of the DoT, it only causes additional ticks so Improved Drain Soul would also not affect the damage of the DoT.

[demonicpanda]

Drain Soul does not increase the damage of the DoT, it only causes additional ticks so Improved Drain Soul would also not affect the damage of the DoT.

I believe he's asking whether or not it's intended for the additional ticks to not get increased damage sub-20%.

[kornoth]

Drain Soul does not increase the damage of the DoT, it only causes additional ticks so Improved Drain Soul would also not affect the damage of the DoT.

Just where did I say that drain soul increase dot damage? I just said that drain soul provide an additionnal tick for each dot that does 40% of the dot damage and that sub 20% this damage stays at 40% instead of becoming 80% like the drain soul perk says, because this damage is a component of the drain soul damage.

[Taalyn]

"Because this is a component of the drain soul damage" is what confuses me. The additional ticks of DoTs are not part of Drain Soul's damage.


Assume only Agony is on the target and base damage is 100.

How Drain Soul works above 20% health - Agony ticks for 100, Drain Soul ticks for 100, Agony instantly deals 40 damage.
How Drain Soul works under 20% health - Agony ticks for 100, Drain Soul ticks for 200, Agony instantly deals 40 damage.

This is how it works. The Drain Soul perk applies only to the Drain Soul ticks.

[bio347]

In MoP, Drain Soul worked the same way, IIRC. Its dot 'shadow ticks' dealt twice as much damage as those from Malefic Grasp, but DS only ticked every 2s compared to MG's 1s.

So I think it's intended behaviour.

[Arothorn]

Assume only Agony is on the target and base damage is 100.

How Drain Soul works above 20% health - Agony ticks for 100, Drain Soul ticks for 100, Agony instantly deals 40 damage.
How Drain Soul works under 20% health - Agony ticks for 100, Drain Soul ticks for 200, Agony instantly deals 40 damage.

This is how it works. The Drain Soul perk applies only to the Drain Soul ticks.

That's what's known, I think that the OP is wondering if the instant Agony tick is meant to tick for increased damage.

[Taalyn]

Here's the most simple answer to his original question: Working as intended.

[Harsesis]

It's working exactly as the tooltip describes. "Your Drain Soul deals 100% additional damage on targets below 20% health." There is no mention in there about increasing the damage of the addition dot ticks, only drain soul itself.

[kornoth]

It's working exactly as the tooltip describes. "Your Drain Soul deals 100% additional damage on targets below 20% health." There is no mention in there about increasing the damage of the addition dot ticks, only drain soul itself.

Do you remember affliction t16 4p bonus? the one that increase the damage of malefic grasp and drain soul by 15%? and it only says malefic grasp and drain soul's damage are increased by 15%, like the tooltip of the perk? Guess what? It increased the damage of the additionnal ticks by 15% too, malefic grasp was 30% additionnal dot damage per tick, with the set bonus it became 45%, drains soul was 60% and it became 75%.
That's why I was thinking it was a bug.

[evertonbelmontt]

If you are sure of it, provide some logs, even from dummys at sub 20% in shrine.
After that, tweet the developers and we will support you. I actually already twitted, but without logs we are just risking being desperates/liars.

[kornoth]

There is some logs, take a simple fight, the butcher.
For drain soul : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...03&view=events
For the extra agony tick from drain soul : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...37&view=events

You can see that the normal tick of drain soul without haunt is 2456, with haunt it is 2873. And in exec phase, drain soul does 4913 ( I don't know if all his exec phase he didn't have haunt on the butcher, but 4913 is 200% of 2456 , so maybe it's not adding the 30% of haunt in exec phase eather).

When you look at agony, at 10 stack the normal damage is 2599, all fight. and it's the same for corruption and UA.

I know that back in MOP , only drain soul ticks did double damage, and the additionnal dot ticks where doing 100% more damage with drain soul because it ticks every 2sec and not every sec. But still, this exec is a joke. And it's not like aff was OP or something, they said one day during t16 that the additionnal ticks damage were part of the malefic grasp/drain soul damage, so with logic, when the perk says that drain soul does 100% more damage, the additionnal dots do too.

[Cyberthug32]

Wouldn't surprise me its bugged atm. I'm kind of surprised not seeing any hot fixes come out for any of our specs recently. Seeing locks in 670+, knowing they were top dps now in the middle ground of dps should be looked into.

[demonicpanda]

Wouldn't surprise me its bugged atm. I'm kind of surprised not seeing any hot fixes come out for any of our specs recently. Seeing locks in 670+, knowing they were top dps now in the middle ground of dps should be looked into.

It's two days after the Christmas break. I'm not surprised at all about hotfixes not coming out yet...