Man with gun stops assault/robbery peacefully

[Gumboy]

http://www.wdaz.com/news/crime/36443...n-fargo-monday

Thankfully that guy with the concealed carry permit was there, or these people could have gotten away with it, or worse, injured the man even more severely. Also good that he did not have to use his firearm to end it.

Kind of a big deal around here, (I'm not from fargo, but somewhat near) as violent crime is not that common.

[smackyslap]

even if it's a good story involving guns you know this forum gun control thread #5478 4580 redux now

on topic nice to see no one got hurt.

[TheBeardedOne]

No one deseves to die for robbery, and guns don't stop robberies.
Your countries hard on for guns is disturbing.
How about investing in better social security instead of having an armed populace?

[Rukentuts]

even if it's a good story involving guns you know this forum gun control thread #5478 4580 redux now

on topic nice to see no one got hurt.

But sucks to know that several orders of magnitude exist between stories like this and people killed.

[Gumboy]

No one deseves to die for robbery, and guns don't stop robberies.
Your countries hard on for guns is disturbing.
How about investing in better social security instead of having an armed populace?

"Guns don't stop robberies" and yet it just happened in this very report. And nobody was killed..did you even read it?

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But sucks to know that several orders of magnitude exist between stories like this and people killed.

Sucks to know that even when something positive happens with a gun, you have to highlight the criminals!

[Rukentuts]

Sucks to know that even when something positive happens with a gun, you have to highlight the criminals!

You mean highlight the things that occur over exponentially more often? Silly me.

[Captain N]

Sucks to know that even when something positive happens with a gun, you have to highlight the criminals!

There is an amazing amount of irony in this....

[Gumboy]

You mean highlight the things that occur over exponentially more often? Silly me.

This thread is not about gun control. Please stop trying to derail... any comments on this? Do you think the person being robbed deserved to be beaten worse, because the police did not get their very fast?

[TheBeardedOne]

"Guns don't stop robberies" and yet it just happened in this very report. And nobody was killed..did you even read it?

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Sucks to know that even when something positive happens with a gun, you have to highlight the criminals!

For fucks sake if guns stopped robberies they would of never tried in the first place.

[Gumboy]

For fucks sake if guns stopped robberies they would of never tried in the first place.

Um...these people were robbing someone. A passer by stopped it with his legally carried gun. You are wrong...read the article.

[TheBeardedOne]

I don't know. This seems like a proper usage of firearms to defend someone.

Anecdotal evidence is useless

[Gumboy]

Anecdotal evidence is useless

So basically, any time you are proven wrong with evidence, its useless. Did a man with a legally carried gun stop this robbery?

[TheBeardedOne]

Um...these people were robbing someone. A passer by stopped it with his legally carried gun. You are wrong...read the article.

Um...yes they were robbing someone. Guns were not a deterrent to stop them from trying, and won't stop more from trying in the future

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So basically, any time you are proven wrong with evidence, its useless. Did a man with a legally carried gun stop this robbery?

Yes he stopped one, but clearly people with guns are not a deterrent

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An anecdote is sufficient when the thread is about the anecdote in question.

Besides, anecdotal evidence isn't useless. It's far more limited in what it is useful for than better types of evidence. For example, you don't want to draw broad conclusions from it; however, it would do just fine to disprove any sort of absolute statement, as absolute statements are generally very easy to disprove. So, for instance, when someone incorrectly states "guns don't stop robberies," you can point to an example in which a gun literally stopped a robbery, and show them that they're wrong.

And i could find another anecdote that contradicts this and we have nothing

[Rukentuts]

Do you think the person being robbed deserved to be beaten worse, because the police did not get their very fast?

I think the several orders of magnitudes of other victims of firearms (relatively speaking) slightly outweigh those in this one case.

[Gumboy]

I think the several orders of magnitudes of other victims of firearms slightly outweigh those in this one case.

So there was nothing positive about this person with a concealed carry permit stopping someone from getting beaten and robbed.

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Yes he stopped one, but clearly people with guns are not a deterrent

We didn't say that. We said it stopped this robbery.

[Rukentuts]

So there was nothing positive about this person with a concealed carry permit stopping someone from getting beaten and robbed.

Net positive on a societal level? Far from it.

[Gumboy]

Net positive on a societal level? Far from it.

I'm sure that guys family is super happy the robbery/beating was stopped. But who cares about them, they had a gun effect their life in a positive way, they don't count, right?

[Rukentuts]

I'm sure that guys family is super happy the robbery/beating was stopped. But who cares about them, they had a gun effect their life in a positive way, they don't count, right?

As if it isn't clear to you by now, I have a knack for looking at issues on a macro scale.

[TheBeardedOne]

So there was nothing positive about this person with a concealed carry permit stopping someone from getting beaten and robbed.

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We didn't say that. We said it stopped this robbery.

The victim got beaten and his wallet taken then the man showed up with the gun, hardly stopped the robbery.

[Captain N]

I'm sure that guys family is super happy the robbery/beating was stopped. But who cares about them, they had a gun effect their life in a positive way, they don't count, right?

Just like a Push in Blackjack - Nobody won but nobody lost either. The use of a gun resulted in a draw.