Thread: [Balance] Help!

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    [Balance] Help!

    Hi guys we have a guildie who has recently started playing Balance. He has mentioned that he is having particular trouble DPS'ing on Imperator with all the movement.

    Logs:
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Daq1JRWY7QvABKr3#

    Any Balance-specific tips tricks to increase his output (on any of the fights but Imperator in particular) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

    Note: he was moving in and out for Butcher's cleave.
    Last edited by styil; 2015-01-04 at 11:34 AM.

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    Hes doing the opener completely wrong tell him to check out http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14731003143 and use the opener mentioned there.
    I see 0 potions being used.
    Has missing enchants and also has a few enchants and gems which give crit and this should be changed to mastery.
    Using Balance of power should be using Euphoria.

    Honestly its not fair for others that he is not using potions and that he has missing enchants since he is not putting as much effort as the other members of the raid team.

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    the opener in the above post is out of date - opener is for the majority of fights when cds are popped at start:
    The ideal opening rotation at the start of the fight is as follows:

    1. Prepot 4 seconds before the pull.
    2. Cast Incarnation
    3. Pre-cast Starfire so that the cast finishes as the boss is pulled.
    4. Cast Celestial Alignment and any other cooldowns that are not on the global cooldown. (Beserking if troll/trinkets)
    5. Cast Moonfire (this will also apply Sunfire Icon Sunfire).
    6. Cast Starsurge (this will trigger the Lunar Empowerment buff).
    7. Cast two Starfire to use up the Lunar Empowerment charges.
    Repeat steps 6 and 7 until Celestial Alignment is about to expire.
    Just before Celestial Alignment expires, re-cast Moonfire (so that Sunfire Icon Sunfire is reapplied).

    Than continue with regular rotation.

    with encounters whenever there is 2+ adds up for at least 8 secs (brackenspore, twin ogron, tectus after first split, koragh adds spawns and imperator during intermissions and 3rd phase add) he should be prioritisng the charges for starfall over starsurge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furein View Post
    the opener in the above post is out of date - opener is for the majority of fights when cds are popped at start:
    The ideal opening rotation at the start of the fight is as follows:

    1. Prepot 4 seconds before the pull.
    2. Cast Incarnation
    3. Pre-cast Starfire so that the cast finishes as the boss is pulled.
    4. Cast Celestial Alignment and any other cooldowns that are not on the global cooldown. (Beserking if troll/trinkets)
    5. Cast Moonfire (this will also apply Sunfire Icon Sunfire).
    6. Cast Starsurge (this will trigger the Lunar Empowerment buff).
    7. Cast two Starfire to use up the Lunar Empowerment charges.
    Repeat steps 6 and 7 until Celestial Alignment is about to expire.
    Just before Celestial Alignment expires, re-cast Moonfire (so that Sunfire Icon Sunfire is reapplied).

    Than continue with regular rotation.

    with encounters whenever there is 2+ adds up for at least 8 secs (brackenspore, twin ogron, tectus after first split, koragh adds spawns and imperator during intermissions and 3rd phase add) he should be prioritisng the charges for starfall over starsurge.
    If you SS @ 3. You can CA+Racial/trinkets and Moonfire on 0, you already have the 2 empowerment buffs and save 1 global during CA allowing for extra SF which will make up for the dps lose of pre SF'ing on the pull. It also gives you extra GCDs of Inc + Pot during combat.
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    His Moonfire + Sunfire dot uptime is at 89% and 84%, both should be at 95%+ uptime. He should be dotting both the mages during the intermission (Gorian Reaver during second intermission), and putting sunfire up on the little adds as they spawn (but not moonfire).

    His Starfall damage is nearly 0, he should be using Starfall right as the mana add spawns during Phase 1,2,3, and 4. As well as using it full time during the transitions (hits both mages and any adds that are up). Basically any time 2+ targets use Starfall - you should not allow yourself to go below 1-2 charges while Starfall is running, if you have 2 charges only use a Starsurge if your Starfall was just reapplied, if its about to fall off you want to wait to use the charge on Starfall unless it procs again. So basically keep as close to 100% uptime on Starfall w/ 2+ targets out without hitting 3 stacks of Starsurge charges. To give you an example how this is so huge, Starfall was 30% of my damage on that boss this last week, it was only 5.5% of his damage.

    He didnt use his troll Berserking buff until near the end of the fight, and he didn't use it with his cooldowns. Berserking should be macroed into Celestial Alignment and used with that. He also didn't use Celestial Alignment in unison with Incarnation. Incarnation should be popped and then Celestial alignment once the gcd used by Incarnation is gone (Celestial Alignment does not use a gcd).

    Everything said before this seems valid - I wouldn't pre-cast Starfire myself, and would opt to use Starsurge at 1 second with Incarnation at the 2 second mark (travel time on Starsurge), this way when u hit Celestial Alignment + trinket/berserking and put up your dots and if you immediately gain a starsurge proc you aren't losing that proc.

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