Gearing for Challenge Modes!

[Deleted]

Hey there guys,

Bit of a long shot, I know with the way that gear works i.e gem slots whatever in CM's it makes it difficult to put together a definitive list however I wanted to go through and get golds throughout but just wanted to know mainly what my gear should consist of? I'm guessing it's all just mastery.

As Demo has also had that buff recently has anybody been able to try out CM's as Demo > Destruction?

Any help is appreciated!

[meekus]

Mastery > crit > mulstistrike is what I'd go for. And gem slots are disabled afaik, but maybe that's what you meant? I'm curious to know what trinkets people are going for, though.

And I can totally see demo working if played well, but I doubt it'll be able to consistently beat destro with the amount of havoc/shadowburns you can get off in there.

[Deleted]

Yeah I agree, Trinkets I can almost guarantee will be one of the PvP ones.. I'd assume that's because of the really short internal CD on it but as a second one, I'm not too sure...

[Iax]

I thought gem slots were turned off in WOD CMs?

[Soulsworn]

Crit > Mastery > Multi

You definitely want Crit enchants--especially after the recent buff.

In a talented group most trash pulls won't live 10-15 seconds past your Cataclysm opener and therefore Crit plays a much larger roll than everyone seems to think due to the high % of your damage that Cataclysm and Shadowburn will be doing. Even on bosses Chaos Bolt makes up a large chunk of your damage as you should be pooling 4 embers to start most bosses--so once again Crit is top dog.

It's not necessary by any means, but Copeland's is absolutely insane for the same reasons that I exalted Crit.

Source: 8/8 Gold and I sell carries.

Edit: No other spec comes anywhere close to Destro in CMs, don't even think about using Demo or Aff!

[Bloodcore89]

I thought gem slots were turned off in WOD CMs?

yeah they are

[Deleted]

Crit > Mastery > Multi

You definitely want Crit enchants--especially after the recent buff.

In a talented group most trash pulls won't live 10-15 seconds past your Cataclysm opener and therefore Crit plays a much larger roll than everyone seems to think due to the high % of your damage that Cataclysm and Shadowburn will be doing. Even on bosses Chaos Bolt makes up a large chunk of your damage as you should be pooling 4 embers to start most bosses--so once again Crit is top dog.

It's not necessary by any means, but Copeland's is absolutely insane for the same reasons that I exalted Crit.

Source: 8/8 Gold and I sell carries.

Edit: No other spec comes anywhere close to Destro in CMs, don't even think about using Demo or Aff!

not what this guy says

mastery > crit, the buff was 1.1% of crit which is nowhere near enough to completely swing your stats. it's just a nice bonus.

[TheFuriousNoob]

not what this guy says

mastery > crit, the buff was 1.1% of crit which is nowhere near enough to completely swing your stats. it's just a nice bonus.

The true king has spoken.

[meekus]

not what this guy says

mastery > crit, the buff was 1.1% of crit which is nowhere near enough to completely swing your stats. it's just a nice bonus.

May I ask what your opinion on trinkets are? Copeland's has been mentioned, and I can definitely see it being great in CM's to line up with every other DS+cata.

[Deleted]

Cheers Lyrov hah

[Deleted]

May I ask what your opinion on trinkets are? Copeland's has been mentioned, and I can definitely see it being great in CM's to line up with every other DS+cata.

copelands alchemy

[Soulsworn]

Unless your group is struggling to pick up time or you feel like grabbing BiS and doing carries you can get by in Golds with Sandmans and a Mastery or Crit stat trinket. Copeland's is still pretty pricey on most servers.

I still advocate Crit for the previously mentioned reasons but I've also not sat down and done the math--I just reasoned that since Cataclysm was such a massive chunk of my dps that I'd give Crit a slight edge. You end up running Crit/Mastery or Mastery/Crit either way so the overall impact of the priority on dps would be minimal. As a Warlock, as long as you're doing your rotations properly and fully abusing Havoc/SB cleaving you'll pretty much be fine.

What's your particular take on putting Mastery ahead of Crit, you didn't explain it.

[Deleted]

Literally all of your damage comes from havoc shadowburns and chaos bolt, it's pointless to not increase the shadowburn damage and instead go for like the ember gen that the chaos bolt gets. If you manage it properly basically every pack after the first in the instance you start with at least 2 embers so the mastery is effective from the beginning, there isn't really an awkward generation phase outside of the very beginning of the instance.

[missbrooklyn25]

Are you always taking cata? Or do you have 2 specs? one for single target one for aoe.

[Tramzh]

Are you always taking cata? Or do you have 2 specs? one for single target one for aoe.

dno why u wud ever respec and lose ur embers as destro to destro. only thing that justifies a respec is if u start demo and do a big ass aoe pull then nuke first boss with high fury if possible then switch to destro for the rest.

[Deleted]

dno why u wud ever respec and lose ur embers as destro to destro. only thing that justifies a respec is if u start demo and do a big ass aoe pull then nuke first boss with high fury if possible then switch to destro for the rest.

this, only time i ever respecced was after iron docks 1st pull, went from charred remains destro > cata destro so i could still do 1st boss as 1st spec with capped embers

[meekus]

Thanks for the input. Much appreciated!

[Santoisms]

not what this guy says

mastery > crit, the buff was 1.1% of crit which is nowhere near enough to completely swing your stats. it's just a nice bonus.

The Lyrov has spoken. Demo is by far the better spec for CM now.

[Deleted]

The Lyrov has spoken. Demo is by far the better spec for CM now.

not for speedruns

[FurtyIRL]

not for speedruns

Not even for golds/carries. No kick and noticeably throttled aoe when you need it kind of puts a dampener on demo. Way more fun tho