ISIS territories have doubled in Syria since allied bombings began

[Gumboy]

Kind of a shitty situation, and yes, this map is from fox news (It is a screengrab) but it is sourced to other news organizations and such, including the wall street journal.



Why have efforts been failing so poorly? If the goal was not to stop ISIS in Syria, then what was the goal of the bombings? It seems to have had the opposite effect of stopping ISIS, or no effect at all and this would have happened anyway.

Whether you think the bombings should have happened or not (And it was not just the US this time!) the fact remains, as of right now, this looks like a completely failed mission.

Article Written by John Kerry about how the bombings would defeat ISIS:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/e...4dK/story.html

in my opinion this is not a political question, but a general society one; is it the responsibility of the rest of the world to be involved? And if you do decide to be involved, is their any excuse for such a failure?

[Deleted]

Well we can't know how it would have been if we were just sitting with our thumbs up our ass. And if it has killed some of them, or destroyed weapons and vehicles, I am guessing it is at least somewhat of a success.

[Mentia]

Kind of a shitty situation, and yes, this map is from fox news (It is a screengrab) but it is sourced to other news organizations and such, including the wall street journal.



Why have efforts been failing so poorly? If the goal was not to stop ISIS in Syria, then what was the goal of the bombings? It seems to have had the opposite effect of stopping ISIS, or no effect at all and this would have happened anyway.

Whether you think the bombings should have happened or not (And it was not just the US this time!) the fact remains, as of right now, this looks like a completely failed mission.

Article Written by John Kerry about how the bombings would defeat ISIS:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/e...4dK/story.html

in my opinion this is not a political question, but a general society one; is it the responsibility of the rest of the world to be involved? And if you do decide to be involved, is their any excuse for such a failure?

The bombings surely didn't hurt the situation if that's what you might think. ISIS is still growing so of course it's going to continue to grow dispite bombs dropping on them. The area needs to be nuked off the face of the planet.

[IIamaKing]

Always thought the planet needed a big sea of glass. Maybe its time we get on that.

[Vyxn]

Kind of a shitty situation, and yes, this map is from fox news (It is a screengrab) but it is sourced to other news organizations and such, including the wall street journal.



Why have efforts been failing so poorly? If the goal was not to stop ISIS in Syria, then what was the goal of the bombings? It seems to have had the opposite effect of stopping ISIS, or no effect at all and this would have happened anyway.

Whether you think the bombings should have happened or not (And it was not just the US this time!) the fact remains, as of right now, this looks like a completely failed mission.

Article Written by John Kerry about how the bombings would defeat ISIS:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/e...4dK/story.html

in my opinion this is not a political question, but a general society one; is it the responsibility of the rest of the world to be involved? And if you do decide to be involved, is their any excuse for such a failure?

you cant win a war with air power alone you have to take and occupy land

[JohnBrown1917]

you cant win a war with air power alone you have to take and occupy land

Acteally, you can depending on the situetion(see, Germany conquering the Netherlands in WWII), but this is clearly not one of them. ISIS has no intention of surrendering.

[Xjev]

Well we knew that was just a high tech air show

[Deleted]

Always thought the planet needed a big sea of glass. Maybe its time we get on that.

What is up with everyone and their grandmother wanting to use nuclear weapons? Is everyone fucking nuts?

[Mentia]

you cant win a war with air power alone you have to take and occupy land

Ask Japan.

[AeneasBK]

Using bombs to win a war of idealogies is as effective as stamping potatoes into the mud to stop them growing.

[Deleted]

Using bombs to win a war of idealogies is as effective as stamping potatoes into the mud to stop them growing.

You win.

I wonder how many fuck ups people would allow their politicians to do before being able to fire them from their spot.

Yet it seems people keep listening to the same crowd... meh

[Vyxn]

Acteally, you can depending on the situetion(see, Germany conquering the Netherlands in WWII), but this is clearly not one of them. ISIS has no intention of surrendering.

the Germans took and occupied lands in the Netherlands. Germans dropped massive amounts of paratroopers into the Netherlands which they took control of and occupied land

[Xarkan]

Kind of a shitty situation, and yes, this map is from fox news (It is a screengrab) but it is sourced to other news organizations and such, including the wall street journal.



Why have efforts been failing so poorly? If the goal was not to stop ISIS in Syria, then what was the goal of the bombings? It seems to have had the opposite effect of stopping ISIS, or no effect at all and this would have happened anyway.

Whether you think the bombings should have happened or not (And it was not just the US this time!) the fact remains, as of right now, this looks like a completely failed mission.

Article Written by John Kerry about how the bombings would defeat ISIS:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/e...4dK/story.html

in my opinion this is not a political question, but a general society one; is it the responsibility of the rest of the world to be involved? And if you do decide to be involved, is their any excuse for such a failure?

Thought most participants kept their bombs etc in Iraq anyhow.

[Gumboy]

The bombings surely didn't hurt the situation if that's what you might think. ISIS is still growing so of course it's going to continue to grow dispite bombs dropping on them. The area needs to be nuked off the face of the planet.

The thing is, it didn't "Hurt' The situation, but it basically accomplished nothing if they goal was to stop/slow the spread of ISIS. So essentially it was a waste of time and a lot of money.

[Vyxn]

Ask Japan.

so all the island hopping taking control of and occupying those island was all but a myth and didn't we take control and occupy japans main land for many years?

[Deleted]

The US has learned nothing from Northern Vietnam. They bombed North Vietnam over and over and still they were pushing towards Saigon and forced the US out.
The US bombings in Pakistan actually increased the amount of support the Taliban receieved.

Bombings may stop supply lines, kill reinforcements and destroy equipment. However it does not stop a ideology and may even make it more popular. The US needs to learn this already.

[JohnBrown1917]

the Germans took and occupied lands in the Netherlands. Germans dropped massive amounts of paratroopers into the Netherlands which they took control of and occupied land

'They surrendered because of the city bombings, not because they took control of all of the land.

[Deleted]

The bombings surely didn't hurt the situation if that's what you might think. ISIS is still growing so of course it's going to continue to grow dispite bombs dropping on them. The area needs to be nuked off the face of the planet.

Omg people like you.. always with the nuking, here go jack of to this

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You like that dirty boy? This your thing right?

Infracted - please post constructively

[JohnBrown1917]

so all the island hopping taking control of and occupying those island was all but a myth and didn't we take control and occupy japans main land for many years?

The Japanese mainland was never controlled untill they surrendered.

[IIamaKing]

What is up with everyone and their grandmother wanting to use nuclear weapons? Is everyone fucking nuts?

I just reread my post, Where did I mention nukes? No where? Ok, Dont have to use nuke to glass a region.