"Loyal fans" selling statues on ebay

[Unami Nightrain]

All I see confirmed is that Blizzard literally cannot do anything that doesn't trigger whining.

Amen. Like, seriously.

[Baltasar]

If it was Varian on a lion i would buy it,but not a green monkey on a wolf.

[Sierra85]

It's a gift. It's not like my electric company sends me a present for paying my electric bill on time for the last 10 years...

to be fair, blizzard has made alot of money. Them showing support to their loyal fans is kind of cool. Spread the wealth around, socialism.

[Deleted]

Sure they do, it's increased rates and the option to experience the 18th century should you choose to not pay your bill!

Sure there is, it's the only one that is hard to argue with: paying a sub for 10 years straight. Any reasonable person would conclude that to do such a thing for an entertainment product, not an ancillary service like utilities, insurance, etc, is doing so, for so long, and so continuously out of loyalty. A case for "addiction" could be made, but that seems far more specious than simply enjoying the product and being loyal to it.

Or just an excessive amount of money and a sincere lack of giving a sh't.

But sure, keep spewing rhetorics that you indulge yourself to be fact.

[corebit]

OP if you were Blizzard how would you tell whether a fan is "loyal" enough to not sell a gift on eBay? There is simply no way to quantify or measure that. Besides, the very nature of a gift means that once it is in your possession, you are free to do with it whatever you want.

[Deleted]

I guess I won't open mine, wait for a while and sell it too.
I don't intend to paint it or clean it every day. It would just collect dust and eventually break. There are people who have far better "use" for stuff like this than me. I never wanted a statue, I just enjoyed to play Blizzards MMO for 10 years. I'm happy that Blizzard took the time and effort to say "thank you" however and I appreciate the gesture very much.

[aziras]

Honestly, every single one of em should get banned from WoW.

With what grounds? Blizzard sends them a collectible they had not asked for. If they do not want the collectible who is to tell them they cannot sell it?

If I had not let my account lapse for some months here or there for family/job reasons I would have qualified. My wife hates those display pieces. So it would either end up in the basement in a box with my LotR collector's edition figurines, or on ebay. Considering that I am not very impressed with the expression of the figure, I would probably go for ebay.

[Deleted]

$15 a month is excessive?

It's not rhetoric, it's an observation made from available data: what the fuck are you talking about?

If they have a excessive amount of money, they do not have to give a sh't for 15 dollars a month, and can just leave it be.

It's not so much an observation, more so then make-belief you are trying to reinforce. Hence, rhetoric that you keep spewing, trying to make that out to be data (i.e, facts) - Which it isn't.

Because you don't have any proper data. You don't have any proper studies, you don't have any citation - You are just spewing your own opinion and presenting that in a very fancy "This is fact". Which is intellectualy dishonest - But that dishonesty aside - It's just plain not data. It's make-belief.

[Myci]

If they can afford to pay a continuous subscription for 10 years I don't think they're that close to not being able to eat and pay other bills. If they were they would have stopped paying to play the game.

Plot twist, they havnt always been strapped for money but they are now. The point is its theirs to do with as they will. Regardless if you got one or not there are things that are much more important then this game and a silly statue. I think its a very good idea to sell it. I would happily like a free 200$ just for playing a game. Get a little money back for your sub.

loyalty was shown playing and paying for 10 years, thats not really debatable. What people do with their reward is there choice. Many people would rather have/need money over a cool looking piece of plastic.

[llubtoille]

I see no problem, they were given a gift and decided to sell it. Clearly they simply valued the money more than the statue.
There could be a number of reasons for this: the sums were too luring, they may have no place for it where they live, they may be alliance and thus loathe the horde with a suitably fiery passion - 'I will not suffer an Orc's presence in my house!'
There should be and will be no punishment as it was a gift freely given and thus theirs to do with as they wish.

[Deleted]

And your evidence for this is? Your feelings. Check

I don't think you understand the definition of rhetoric but since you claim english isn't your first language and you can't be arsed to look it up in a dictionary and learn what it means I'll leave you be.

Don't talk about data when you are the person hand-waiving about having $15 a month and being well off and not giving a shit about it for a DECADE. it's pretty easy to follow Blizzards line of reasoning. Loyalty = someone who has been paying their sub for a decade straight. While you might have a few outliers such as your suggestion of someone really rich and not giving a shit, it's more likely that people who have been paying their sub for a decade straight do so cause they like the product. But you're right I'm just talking plausibility here. But since your more dubious claim of "wealthy people who don't care" is what the p of this bell curve is, by all means PROVE YOUR FUCKING CASE. If you aren't going to do that legwork, we can just agree to disagree, and you can resume shutting the fuck up.

Do i need to present evidence, to a fully logical scenario? I'm sure i could dig up statistics, but to go on interviews all world-wide, just to prove a point on the internets to somehow who seems to be simply growing in aggitation, rather then providing more constructive ideas for discussion - I think that's a waste of time.

And yet, somehow, you are still here. But it seems to be that you are just trying to find straws now - For what reason i do not know, as you are certainly not being constructive about it.

I am certain that there is a representation of people whom are in that scenario - escpeially given the quantity of players who have played WoW or come in contact with it. So, it's a fair assumption - Which pretty much then can be supported with data, if needed be - But like i said, it seems excessive to travel the world and interview people on their reasoning, just to try and have a discussion with someone who just seems to lack the capacity of staying calm and constructive.

A shame really. If it really agitates you that much, you could just, y'know - Not respond. I ain't holding you on gunpoint to argue against me.

[Myci]

Do i need to present evidence, to a fully logical scenario? I'm sure i could dig up statistics, but to go on interviews all world-wide, just to prove a point on the internets to somehow who seems to be simply growing in aggitation, rather then providing more constructive ideas for discussion - I think that's a waste of time.

And yet, somehow, you are still here. But it seems to be that you are just trying to find straws now - For what reason i do not know, as you are certainly not being constructive about it.

I am certain that there is a representation of people whom are in that scenario - escpeially given the quantity of players who have played WoW or come in contact with it. So, it's a fair assumption - Which pretty much then can be supported with data, if needed be - But like i said, it seems excessive to travel the world and interview people on their reasoning, just to try and have a discussion with someone who just seems to lack the capacity of staying calm and constructive.

A shame really. If it really agitates you that much, you could just, y'know - Not respond. I ain't holding you on gunpoint to argue against me.

i may have missed your point, but im guessing your saying that there are rich people who just let their sub run regardless of playing and so you argue they arent loyal.

To that I say that paying 15$ a month for 10 years, IMO, shows a great deal of loyalty regardless of there involvement in playing. These players payed alot of money over a long period of time supporting blizzard. How do you think they make this game? with that money and people like them who keep giving it to blizz. That constant financial support and business over all these years shows a great amount of loyalty, regardless how much they play or love the game.

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Provide the data then, or shut the fuck up?

dude you cant convince everyone in the world to agree with you, I recommend moving on. Your posts are moving away from debate and becoming more and more aggressive.

[Serissa]

Sure there is, it's the only one that is hard to argue with: paying a sub for 10 years straight. Any reasonable person would conclude that to do such a thing for an entertainment product, not an ancillary service like utilities, insurance, etc, is doing so, for so long, and so continuously out of loyalty. A case for "addiction" could be made, but that seems far more specious than simply enjoying the product and being loyal to it.

I see it more like "there's no good enough alternatives". And you know lack of alternatives doesn't mean loyalty to single good product.

[Sprinky]

It does make me lol the people saying ban the ones who sold their statues. Do you not understand that some peoples taste is different to your own? If someone bought me an ornament that didn't match the style of my apartment Id sell that too. As it happens I'm keeping my statue boxed for a few years to see if the value rises before selling. I'm not going to ruin the look of my modern apartment by having it on show, and I'm a little old to have a toy box.

[Kazlofski]

This is why we can't have nice things...

[Heywes]

Isn't that a little too extreme?

Hard to judge. Its a nice gift for fans, but, its also there choice what to do with it. Kind of a slap in the face back at Blizzard. "I like you enough to constantly sub, but not enough to accept a free gift".

I would of put it on my shift and displayed it. Its a nice statue, but alas, I was un- worthy. Oh well.

[Enosh]

I'd sell this shit in a heartbeat if I got one

-stupid orc
-not big on displaying gaming statues around, so it's question of money vs being in some box in the basement
-really need the money

[Deleted]

Sure is a whole lot of projection going on in here.

[Frozen Death Knight]

Why would anyone lock something like that? It's legit question, asking people if blizzard did right at selection

Of course it is the right selection. The only requirement for getting it was that you needed a WoW account within 60 days of the game launching. Blizzard can't be responsible for what people do with the statues once they get them. It is in fact common to sell these types of things because they tend to be worth quite a bit of money.

There's nothing unethical about selling something you own. People need to seriously get over themselves.

[ParanoiD84]

Well the statue is not even that good looking, i would have cashed in on it to. It's nice of blizzard though to give something to loyal fans.