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    Ogre stacking

    I had an Ogre Brute and Mogre the Ogre on the field and neither proc'd, they each hit the right target. I was curious if the 50% and 50% would stack and if so, additive. If they do stack, it is not additive.

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    I just assumed that if the minion already had a 50% misfire chance, the effect did nothing. I guess people could run tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahdik View Post
    I had an Ogre Brute and Mogre the Ogre on the field and neither proc'd, they each hit the right target. I was curious if the 50% and 50% would stack and if so, additive. If they do stack, it is not additive.
    Seeing as it doesn't add a 50% chance to fail, but just sets the chance to fail at 50%, they should not stack.
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    I believe the rolls are independent. For example, you could Ogre miss but then Mogor roll and hit the correct target.
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    Can't say that I've tested but feels pretty silly that they would stack. The chance to hit a random target should simply be set to 50%. At least that is how I would interpret the card text. If turns out they indeed stack, then I would wager it to be a bug.

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    Testing may need to be done, but seeing how it "all minions have a 50% chance to attack the wrong enemy" would mean that it already has 50% chance.

    Maybe each has their own roll to see if it procs.

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    The effect does indeed stack. During an arena run I got double Mogor via Echo of Medivh. Minions have a 50% chance to attack the wrong enemy, but they can then be redirected again.

    ETA: So while it wasn't with other Ogres, it follows that the same would happen there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahdik View Post
    I had an Ogre Brute and Mogre the Ogre on the field and neither proc'd, they each hit the right target. I was curious if the 50% and 50% would stack and if so, additive. If they do stack, it is not additive.
    There's a set 50% chance per redirect. The game rolls for each ogre individually. The attack can be redirected multiple times.
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    A bit off topic, but I think mogor is an underestimated card that can completely swing tempo against aggro. Oh, you thought you had 12 face damage? Guess what, now have zero clue how much face damage you have and you'te probably going to lose a minion or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    I just assumed that if the minion already had a 50% misfire chance, the effect did nothing. I guess people could run tests.
    From what I can tell, most players are calculating it as there being multiple chances for the misfire, would be good to look into though, because there's a huge difference between 25% and 50%.

    That pun was ogre the top.
    Let's hope this stops soon, these puns have ogre-stayed their welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolretadin View Post
    From what I can tell, most players are calculating it as there being multiple chances for the misfire, would be good to look into though, because there's a huge difference between 25% and 50%.



    Let's hope this stops soon, these puns have ogre-stayed their welcome.
    i think it's time to restart my Shaman ogre deck. Shaman for the obvious 5/4 windfury ogre. If you would like to see it I'll be just ogre there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shammypie View Post
    i think it's time to restart my Shaman ogre deck. Shaman for the obvious 5/4 windfury ogre. If you would like to see it I'll be just ogre there.
    I dunno, the wind fury is good but with the card being 5/4 instead of 4/5 it ends up being mediogre

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongoose6 View Post
    I dunno, the wind fury is good but with the card being 5/4 instead of 4/5 it ends up being mediogre
    that card is a junk, one of the worst from gvg, if it was 3/6, then maybe playable, but 5/4? trash thats likely gonna kill itself on first miss, if it isnt removed by some random cheap removal before it gets to attack...

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    All these puns are making me break my pogre face.
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    I'd love if an Ogre deck became viable.

    Naming the deck would be half the fun.

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    I made a sort of viable ogre-ish paladin.

    Basically abuses Wailing Spirit with all the cards that are fine or even beneficial to silence - did you know if you drop one after an equality that it's basically a full heal to your entire board whilst setting the opponents board to 1 health? It's not the strongest deck, but getting that combo off is insane.
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