Do you want Garrisons in the next Expansion ?

[Mission]

So after my other poll http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...Garrison/page5

with a staggering amount voting they barely leave their Garrison, would you want too see Garrisons/Followers continued into the next Expansion ?

Myself, as I said in the poll, I barely leave my Garrison, other then to raid, and check the Black Market.
I love Garrisons and Followers/Missions, I truely do. But...... I would like too see more things thats worth while to do out side in the world and I do want Garrisons in the Next Exapnsion, for sure, well for me anyway.


Could not imagine now having missions and follower fun... What is your thoughts, poll to come !

[Dekkers]

Hell no.
I am hoping they get deleted from the game in 6.2

[Deleted]

maybe if they make them account/server wide other than that nope

[shoc]

With the amount of resources invested in the garrison I would be surprised if Blizzard doesn't reuse the garrison infrastructure in one way or another in future expansions.

For example, the Garrison system would be perfect for implementing a fully customizable ship in a South Seas expansion, or, for example if Stormwind park is rebuilt it could be a customizable command center for the player.

There is so much they could do with Garrison tech without just rehashing Garrisons

[slime]

Hell no.
I am hoping they get deleted from the game in 6.2

That's a big hell no from me too. Problem is I believe they have already damaged the game in ways that cannot be reversed. By the end of WoD - I believe 90%+ players will have gold cap on at least one toon. They do make making gold almost brainless and it just stacks and stacks the more garrisons you have the quicker and easier it is too make. I don't know what a World of Warcraft will be like when most if not all players are gold capped, heck might make it a better game, but I doubt it.

[Marema]

Sure do. I want them to stay as they are per character. NO need to have it account wide.

If you aren't smart enough to figure out how to do your garrison stuff in a couple minutes then go play solitaire.

[micwini]

I don't want to have garrisons in the next expansion. They could keep some elements in like the followers, but i don't want it to be like i have to place work orders all the time to make profit.

[Orby]

I actually love the feature!

[Laerrus]

While they were fun in the beginning, now they are really starting to get old.

If there are garrisons in the next expansion, I'll probably want to avoid them like the plague.

[Crysis]

That's a big hell no from me too. Problem is I believe they have already damaged the game in ways that cannot be reversed. By the end of WoD - I believe 90%+ players will have gold cap on at least one toon. They do make making gold almost brainless and it just stacks and stacks the more garrisons you have the quicker and easier it is too make. I don't know what a World of Warcraft will be like when most if not all players are gold capped, heck might make it a better game, but I doubt it.

how the f do you think everybody will be gold capped? still sitting on 10k +/- ... just because there are some people playing the AH and stealing gold from everybody else doesn't mean everybody else is doing that as well.

[Apexis]

In all honesty, I would trade the garrison any day for even more world content. It is fine to a point and then it loose some luster once you have a 12 or more of them and even with addons making them easier they are still really at the end of the day just more point and click and receive a prize in a few hours. I preferred actual game play stimulation verses an artificial, this sadly reminds me of the so called rares on timeless isle where you ride around hoping to get them when they spawn before they die in nanoseconds. Even the Invasions get stale once you done them and then the just keep repeating themselves and you get another prize at the end of those. There is just far to much timeless isle saturation in this content, hence why many that I have read of been complaining about the lack of actual content. Blizzard was under the impression that a 100% player base enjoyed TI, but that could be further from the truth and we are getting more in 6.1 and no real world content.

The garrison is what this expansion is about and everything is and will revolve around it, its our very own Timeless Isle, just wrapped in a different package.

[Mission]

I enjoy the Garrison/Follower game a hell of alot.

And hope it would continue in the next expansion, but not so tied into everything.

[slime]

how the f do you think everybody will be gold capped? still sitting on 10k +/- ... just because there are some people playing the AH and stealing gold from everybody else doesn't mean everybody else is doing that as well.

My guess is you fall into the 10%. Once your garrison is all level 3 and you are just churnning out free mats for professions, and continue to get unending resources - what are you doing with them? Do you have a trading post? If not I think thats what you aren't seeing here. I pushed 2k garrison resources through there almost every day for free stacks of (that's 200 stacks btw) of the fur, enchanting dust, or whatever is selling for the most on AH currently. And then there are bloods - also must have a barn and you could easily push any free bloods you make in a day through AH for gold. and then there are the primals - which you get not only for farming, but basically clearing each of your garrisons of herbs and metals - those can be changed into bloods, or the elemental mats from this xpac (those have dropped a lot - but they were easily selling for 50g per, now more like 15g). Some people don't care about making lots of gold, but unlike past xpacs I think the "casual" gold makers will find it impossible not to watch that gold pile grow and grow.

And don't forget - i did say by the end of WoD, not yet - but this kind of behavior continuing for another 1.5-2 years... theres a lot of gold to be made - and very easily.

[Apexis]

Sure do. I want them to stay as they are per character. NO need to have it account wide.

If you aren't smart enough to figure out how to do your garrison stuff in a couple minutes then go play solitaire.

They are not hard and actually at this point that is more the problem. They are getting stale and even the crap they are bring in 6.1 is really just more of the same. I don't think many have realized, but we really just have our own private Timeless Isle content, that we can invite a few people into every week, now we will be able to do a whole raid, oh what joy. It is not engaging enough, its just more mind numbing content for the people that really don't want to go far from the garrison. In the end helps Blizzard with the whole no flying thing, because if they put enough content in the garrison, then you do not need to go anywhere, hence you do not need a flying mount if the content is sitting right in front of your face. Its amazing how that all works out and save face for an expansion that looks pretty, but is very much lacking in actual world content.

We keep having this type of non-engaging type of content, I am going to have to find something better to challenge my mind everyday. I did not like Timeless Isle, in fact I hated it and now I have my own personal one. I hope these do not get put into further content, because they make the lazy people even more lazy.

[Daws001]

Garrisons are the main reason I'm still playing. I hope they build on the follower stuff especially. There should be a mobile app for it tbh.

Also pet battles.

[TheWindWalker]

My guess is you fall into the 10%. Once your garrison is all level 3 and you are just churnning out free mats for professions, and continue to get unending resources - what are you doing with them?

Leave them alone because gathering resources from my garrison got boring the moment I started getting raid gear that invalidated the excess amount of effort it takes to get savage bloods with a single toon?

90% of the playerbase doesn't have 5, 6, 11 alts all pushing things through their garrison. I'd be surprised if by that fifth alt you're even in the 1% category.

[Shadee]

Nope, Garrisons just feel like a chore and don't seem like actual enjoyable content.

[tehpwner]

That's a big hell no from me too. Problem is I believe they have already damaged the game in ways that cannot be reversed. By the end of WoD - I believe 90%+ players will have gold cap on at least one toon. They do make making gold almost brainless and it just stacks and stacks the more garrisons you have the quicker and easier it is too make. I don't know what a World of Warcraft will be like when most if not all players are gold capped, heck might make it a better game, but I doubt it.

As long as there are ways to dump all your money (whether it be gold sinks, laziness induced auction sprees, or other reasons) there will always be "poor" players. The number of people in my guild, friends list and people I know who still hover around 1-5k proves this to me at least. More money doesn't make people more fiscally responsible, just more able to spend it and ultimately end up broke again.

[Deleted]

Oh look, most say 'No', ... "What a surprise!" ¬_^

[Reivur]

Enjoy Garrisons immensely. I especially like collecting the followers and tweaking a 'perfect' army out of my Inn. I have, sadly, more excitement of Tuesday coming by to get a new recruit than I do a raid reset because I find High Maul extremely boring. And while I agree that the creation of Garrisons likely pulled resources/content away from other aspects of the game, I don't agree that it'll pull the same amount of resources away from newer content to maintain and expand upon now that the system is in place. I like screwing around with it, hedging odds and making racial synergies.

If anything I wish they'd add more bodyguards and the ability to have them scale & disengage from targets to give me more incentives to leave my Garrison and derp around with them. But frankly, if they 'unplugged' support from Garrisons in 6.2, I still don't see what exactly would make me "Leave my Garrison" anymore than "Leaving Shattrath", "Leaving Dalaran", Orgrimmar or even Shrine would happen. The closest success the game has ever had in me leaving a main city with frequent regularity was Pandaria, and everyone trashed them for it because "they felt forced to do dailies". Just like people "feel forced to do Garrisons".

Everyone's solution seems to be "I want a reason to leave X Main Hub, but don't make it mandatory or else!". But if it isn't mandatory, then people are just going to sit in X Main Hub for their convenient queues. Wrath onward has proven as such.