Mike Rowe's opinion on minimum wage.

[IIamaKing]

He can't find one because he's underpaying. Welders are making upwards of $50 in the old fields.

A welder is not a dry wall hanger. One is a low-medium skill job and one is a high skill job.

[arandomuser]

Unless of course, you know, the top 20% is making close to 80% of the income?

They get 99% of the income, so if they are paying only 80% of the taxes, yeah thats unfair to the people who make 1% of the income. Conservatives dont understand proportions. Just like their silly argument about minimum wage being 2.90 30 years ago.

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Nice story, just one minor problem with it:



$2.90/hr in 1979 = $9.46/hr in 2014.

He was earning almost what the newly proposed minimum wage is back then, in real terms. Far more than the current $7.25/hr. This information took me 20 seconds to find out by punching "inflation calculator US" into google.

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

A fucking hypocrite he is, as most conservatives are. Thank goodness europe and their "big government" aren't ahead of the us in Every single area. OH WAIT THEY ARE, who would of known??? but fuck statistics lets go back to the good ol days before the minimum wage, ya know when over half of the population lived in extreme poverty, but hey its ok if you're starving to death, as long as you arent taking a "handout" paid by the "job creators"

[Nadiru]

Unless of course, you know, the top 20% is making close to 80% of the income?

Does that mean they also get 80% of their demands met? And here's the part where you tell me "no" even though that's how it must necessarily play out in the political arena.

[selrah]

I'm not economist, but would offering tax breaks to businesses that give wages above minimum wage work? The higher the wages the higher the tax break.

[IIamaKing]

Is a welder employed by a dry wall hanger still a welder?

He would be a welder by trade employed as a drywall hanger. 40 bucks an hour for dry wall hanging is amazing.

[chrisberb]

Does that mean they also get 80% of their demands met? And here's the part where you tell me "no" even though that's how it must necessarily play out in the political arena.

Not sure what you mean by demands? Like, 80% of the votes or something?

[Sunseeker]

Or close tax loopholes. But yes, taxes are at historic lows, not just for the top quintile, but for everybody in the country. It's daft to construct a tax program where the top 20% of the country pays 80% of the taxes, and not expect the top 20% to get their dick sucked over everybody else in the country.

Yeah but the wealthy will always pay the most taxes, because the wealthy have the most money and taxes are percentages, not flat rates. Unless you're arguing for income and wealth caps.

[Masark]

A welder is not a dry wall hanger. One is a low-medium skill job and one is a high skill job.

What are you on about? The guy quoted was complaining about not being able to find a welder at below-market wages.

[PizzaSHARK]

i like Mike Rowe's opinion on a lot of things, but I disagree with him on this. I dont think he factors inflation on what he made when he worked min and what people make working now. If he wants people to be able to live, and everything Ive ever read says that he does, he should be ok with a rise to about 10 an hour.

It's almost like we should just listen to the experts on a given subject, or something.

[Nadiru]

Not sure what you mean by demands? Like, 80% of the votes or something?

No, I mean demands. "I want X, Y, and Z, do it or I bankroll your opponent."

Here's a more tricky question: How do you get politicians to see people from the bottom 80% of citizens, as citizens?

[Masark]

Unless of course, you know, the top 20% is making close to 80% of the income?

Or in the USA, it's close from the far side of it.

[arandomuser]

Hey can someone in australia or europe tell me about the doomsday they are in, tell me about how the opressive minimum wage has killed your incentive to work and no businesses are hiring, and how their unemployment must be abyssmalll according to proffessional mike rowe who got his PHD in idionomics from fucktard university.

[Nadiru]

Yeah but the wealthy will always pay the most taxes, because the wealthy have the most money and taxes are percentages, not flat rates. Unless you're arguing for income and wealth caps.

No, I'm arguing for an increase on taxes across the board. Everybody getting pinged will make it easier to swallow, because the petty people will think "well, I'm not losing as much as Him." It will cause a wide growth in revenues because you're adding tens of millions of new sources, and frankly it will help reorganize politicians towards the mean, instead of the upper echelons.

[The Oblivion]

why are people mentioning $10/hour. the group and his response to that group is because of them demanding $20/hour, more then double the inflation rate

[Gheld]

No, I mean demands. "I want X, Y, and Z, do it or I bankroll your opponent."

Here's a more tricky question: How do you get politicians to see people from the bottom 80% of citizens, as citizens?

Lol you don't. The bluff has been called. There are no words left to be said.

[Masark]

why are people mentioning $10/hour. the group and his response to that group is because of them demanding $20/hour, more then double the inflation rate

Greater than inflation, but in line with the growth in productivity. All the gains from new technology shouldn't only go to the top.

[arandomuser]

why are people mentioning $10/hour. the group and his response to that group is because of them demanding $20/hour, more then double the inflation rate

australia is 17$ an hour, please, explain to me how dire they are in....go ahead, i bet they must be in an abysmal situation right?

[The Oblivion]

Greater than inflation, but in line with the growth in productivity. All the gains from new technology shouldn't only go to the top.

what people really think $20 an hour min wage is even slightly reasonable? holy fuck. what a joke. some people need to get off their asses ffs

[Masark]

Sweden is 20$ an hour, please, explain to me how dire they are in....go ahead, i bet they must be in an abysmal situation right?

Not quite. It's more like $15 once you account for purchasing power.

[stabetha]

why are people mentioning $10/hour. the group and his response to that group is because of them demanding $20/hour, more then double the inflation rate

that was just demeaned so the democrats could say "see the republicans don't want to raise the minimum wage"