Is it worth, doing Spinning crane kick on Iron Maidens?

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Hey Monks,
I ran a few Sims and I saw that it is a dps increase when you cast Spinning crane kick instead of Jab for building Chi in a three enemy fight. So since Iron Maidens are gathered most of the fight it should be a dps increase then?!

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

Its a video game man, do what makes you happy.
I'm sure everyone would agree. As long as you are having fun, there is no wrong way to play!

[Xiaojin]

I think without further information (spec/talents/glyphs) that's hard to say. But for BrM you should go Rushing Jade Wind anyway and for WW I find that hard to believe. The majority of WW's damage comes from auto-attacks and chi spenders. SCK would have to hit like a truck to compensate for that.

[durrtygoodz]

Its a video game man, do what makes you happy.
I'm sure everyone would agree. As long as you are having fun, there is no wrong way to play!

He's come here for dps advice, not hippy nonsense.

[AureliusKJ]

Most of the top logs for Maidens I looked at did not use spinning crane kick or rushing jade wind. Instead they used Jab as a Chi Builder, ChiEx as a spender, and most importantly, had very good utilization of Fists of Fury. At our current energy regen levels we can't sustain RJW while still running ChiEx to good effect.

[Deleted]

I played maidens with RJW and ChiX and it worked perfectly fine; currently sitting at 1060~ haste rating.

[Megabloks]

I don't think you should use SCK on 3 targets for extended periods of time. You cut your chi generation in half, severely limiting your TEB generation. The bigger one I think is that SCK can not proc combo breakers.

[Khazaad]

I think without further information (spec/talents/glyphs) that's hard to say. But for BrM you should go Rushing Jade Wind anyway and for WW I find that hard to believe. The majority of WW's damage comes from auto-attacks and chi spenders. SCK would have to hit like a truck to compensate for that.

If you're on boat duty Xuen aligns perfectly with going up. Having Xuen and ToD up for each boat phase helps more then mediocre cleave with RjW in my opinion, and you're doing enough cleave with KS and CE (which you should use on this fight, nothing hits remotely hard enough to warrant serenity). Ofc, I only did faceroll normal so far, since EU was f***ed on Thursday and we hopped in normal on Friday to check out the bosses before we push further in on HC. HC might prove to be a whole different beast, although with regards to this specific talent choice I can't see much changing.

[Xiaojin]

If you're on boat duty Xuen aligns perfectly with going up. Having Xuen and ToD up for each boat phase helps more then mediocre cleave with RjW in my opinion, and you're doing enough cleave with KS and CE (which you should use on this fight, nothing hits remotely hard enough to warrant serenity). Ofc, I only did faceroll normal so far, since EU was f***ed on Thursday and we hopped in normal on Friday to check out the bosses before we push further in on HC. HC might prove to be a whole different beast, although with regards to this specific talent choice I can't see much changing.

Good point, I haven't considered that. My co-tank went onto the boats and I stayed with the maidens the whole time, so sustained AoE (i.e. RJW) was more helpful for me. But I can see how Xuen is the better choice if you're on boat duty.

BTW: stupid instance servers on Thursday. Wanted to do Iron Docks Challenge Mode Gold that evening...

[Thunderbox]

I managed around 55k which seemed pretty decent running Xuen, and not using SCK

[snegro]

ChiEX+Asc+Xuen for Maidens for sure. Don't SCK on 2/3 targets, it's THE encounter to make the most use out of SEF and starving your resources by pumping out SCK is a significant DPS loss on this encounter. Every top parse is without SCK.

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ok thank you for the answers

[Kaharon]

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OT: For me it makes most sense to use Jab + ChiEx because using only sck you get so much less chi for the energy you spend and that way you can not get many chi explosion/rsk uses as you would with jab.

[Deleted]

Good point, I haven't considered that. My co-tank went onto the boats and I stayed with the maidens the whole time, so sustained AoE (i.e. RJW) was more helpful for me. But I can see how Xuen is the better choice if you're on boat duty.

BTW: stupid instance servers on Thursday. Wanted to do Iron Docks Challenge Mode Gold that evening...

Tbh I'd argue against using Xuen on boat if your DPS is good enough. More than likely the add on boat won't live long enough for Xuen to expire + Touch of Death eradicates it.

Save Xuen for cleave on platform.

Besides, you're not sustaining AOE the whole time. A large portion of time (if you stay on platform) is spent only 2 targets, due to one Maiden running to the boat. Xuen has passive cleave and melee, definitely an upgrade. You can fit in like, 4 Xuen's during the encounter too, two of which line up with Pot/On Use Trinkets too.

TL;DR take Xuen as Brewmaster for this fight. Watch your big dick damage soar.