GOP lawmaker says "child that can come from rape is beautiful"

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I posted this earlier today, but it got locked because I was bashing the GOP too much.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...p_ref=politics

A Republican state lawmaker said Thursday that women who become pregnant from sexual assault should not be exempt from an anti-abortion measure, because childbirth resulting from rape is "beautiful."
"Obviously rape is awful," West Virginia Del. Brian Kurcaba (R) said during a committee hearing on a new abortion restriction, according to David Gutman, a Charleston Gazette reporter. "What is beautiful is the child that could come from this."
Kurcaba, a financial adviser, was elected to the House of Delegates in November.
The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy. State House Republicans revived the proposal after West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin (D) vetoed it in 2014. The House Health Committee voted down an exception for rape and incest victims on Thursday and approved the bill for a full vote in the House.
Kurcada's comment about rape and abortion is similar to an argument made by U.S. Senate candidate Richard Mourdock of Indiana in October 2012. "I think that even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen," Mourdock said in a debate.
Mourdock lost the election to a Democrat weeks later, and the GOP's big losses in elections that year were largely attributed to controversial rape comments made by Republican candidates.
The most notorious remark that election season came from U.S. Senate candidate Todd Akin of Missouri.
“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin said of pregnancy. "But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something: I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child.”

The child that can come from it could be beautiful, true. However, I doubt the mother would want such a lasting reminder of the horrifying event that transpired. And having to go through all that physical, mental and emotional stress of an unwanted pregnancy for 9 months can be catastrophic.

[Lenonis]

Isn't this almost verbatim what some other GOP dude said like a year or two ago?

It's rather simple...they feel that a child is a gift regardless of the way it came about, thus abortion should never be an option.

EDIT -- I hope the GOP doesn't wonder why they are losing the female vote with this stuff.

[Zervek]

I'd abort it. The child would be a constant reminder. And in a way, the rapist would be reborn inside me.

[Templar 331]

Why the hell would a rape victim wait 20 weeks to get an abortion? What the dude said was stupid, but I can see not giving the exemption to the 20 week law.

[tj119]

All rape babies should be aborted.

[Captain N]

I can see some Conservative Christians saying that the woman should also have to marry her rapist - Just like in that book.

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I posted this earlier today, but it got locked because I was bashing the GOP too much.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...p_ref=politics



The child that can come from it could be beautiful, true. However, I doubt the mother would want such a lasting reminder of the horrifying event that transpired. And having to go through all that physical, mental and emotional stress of an unwanted pregnancy for 9 months can be catastrophic.

but this is also a stupid point.

The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

The House Health Committee voted down an exception for rape and incest victims on Thursday

Why there should be one is perplexing? Its almost as if the democrats tried to be dicks for no reason.
Since this bill bans abortions after week 20 (hint, medical science thinks its iffy at this point, its not an unreasonable line) they have a full 14-18 weeks to have an abortion.
Also, all children are wonderful, any other position is essentially the sin of the father, which is stupid.

[Masark]

Why the hell would a rape victim wait 20 weeks to get an abortion?

Money, GoP-imposed waiting periods, travel time (thanks to GoP-imposed "regulations" of providers causing most clinics to close), trying to get away from an abusive husband/father in order to get one, etc.

[Aeula]

Ugh, if I was a woman I'd rip the bloody thing out with a rusty ladle, children are hideous monsters already but one that is the product of rape? I wouldn't want to be reminded by looking at it.

[Endus]

Nobody except the woman in question and her doctor should have any kind of opinion on this.


However;
"I think that even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen"

Statements like this infuriate me. If you believe in God, then God also gave us the free will to make these kinds of choices, and the intelligence to develop the technical capacity to have these choices as options.

You may as well say "when you catch Ebola, that's something God intended to happen." And in this context, using that argument to deny people treatment for the disease in question. It's outrageous.

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Money, GoP-imposed waiting periods, travel time (thanks to GoP-imposed "regulations" of providers causing most clinics to close), trying to get away from an abusive husband/father in order to get one, etc.

which would be valid if the line was 4 weeks, or even 12, but 20? this is stretching.
The only reason they stuck it on there was to be political dicks.

[Lenonis]

Also, all children are wonderful, any other position is essentially the sin of the father, which is stupid.

It should not be baffling why women don't want to hear men declare that children from rape are wonderful. Their tendency to react negatively to these statements is hardly hard to comprehend.

[Masark]

which would be valid if the line was 4 weeks, or even 12, but 20? this is stretching.

What? It taking a few months to save up a few weeks wages is stretching?

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Nobody except the woman in question and her doctor should have any kind of opinion on this.

i think the state has all the right in the world to legislate when a foetus becomes in a 'citizen' So No.
And more importantly, the ban is one after 20 weeks, Which is A, not a unreasonable line (idd, it is the medical position of it) and B, at 20 weeks Why does there need to be a rape and incest exception? a medical emergency one sure, but im thinking that this is mostly political dickery.

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What? It taking a few months to save up a few weeks wages is stretching?

Then your problem is the to poor to pay for abortions exemptions.

[Endus]

Also, the moment you bring up a deity, your opinion is no longer fit for influencing policy in a government that is supposed to be secular.

I'm all for letting people have whatever religious beliefs they want, but those beliefs only affect their choices for themselves, they don't get to force them on other people.

Take Jewish people eating kosher, as an example that's pretty uncontroversial. A Jewish person eating kosher is fine. A Jewish person trying to ban non-kosher foods for anyone in the name of their religion? Not okay. Not that they try and do that, really, but that's the equivalent to having a religious opposition to abortion and trying to ban it for everyone.

[Hammerfest]

but it got locked because I was bashing the GOP too much.

I kinda doubt that.

[Templar 331]

I know someone that waited a really long time because she was so traumatized and didn't know what to do. She definitely didn't want the kid but she was really screwed up over it.

That kind of contradicts itself. I understand that a traumatic event like that really messes with you, I do. But I don't see giving an exception to someone who knew they wanted an abortion but couldn't get around to doing it. I understand money problems too but it's better to do it sooner and bite the bullet rather than later.

Would be nice if rape kits came with morning after pills or something of that nature. Would solve most of this.

[Hammerfest]

Is this baby beautiful?

[Sky High]

more tripe about how the none existent are more important than the existing.

[Lenonis]

I kinda doubt that.

Victim Complex ahooooooooy. Also your appeal to emotion by posting a picture of a baby is tacky at best.