How would an Ape Civilization work?

[SpcGuts]

The common usage includes humans, alongside chimps, orangutans and gorillas.

Yeah, Ape is actually the common usage....the more scientific term would be Hominoidea

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The common usage includes humans, alongside chimps, orangutans and gorillas.

I doubt that we are too self centered to not make a term for our own in everyday communication.

[Kalis]

I doubt that.

I doubt lots of things, doesn't stop them being true though.

[SpcGuts]

I doubt that we are too self centered to not make a term for our own in everyday communication.

We have made that term. It's called Human. Or Homo Sapien Sapien.

[oxymoronic]

anyways answer the op's question is an easy one. chimps would rule the planet as they are the only ones that participate in organized war.

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We have made that term. It's called Human. Or Homo Sapien Sapien.

And apes are in common usage primates without tail excluding us.

Planet of the Apes is not interchangeable with planet of the Humans not in the "folk taxonomy" of the words how the article put it.

[Techno-Druid]

I think it would be incredibly interesting to teach a group of monkeys sign language and see how/if they used it among themselves and if they passed it on to offspring.

Yeah, I think Washoe the chimpanzee passed sign language to her son.

[SpcGuts]

And apes are in common usage primates without tail excluding us.

Planet of the Apes is not the planet of the Humans.

Including us. In the fictional tale of Planet of the Apes, there were still Humans around...so....

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Including us. In the fictional tale of Planet of the Apes, there were still Humans around...so....

That wasnt meant stop it.

[Kalis]

And apes are in common usage primates without tail excluding us.

Planet of the Apes is not the planet of the Humans.

You're basing your argument on a film title from 40-odd years ago?

[Techno-Druid]

anyways answer the op's question is an easy one. chimps would rule the planet as they are the only ones that participate in organized war.

Yeah, well bonobos could too. I always like to compare chimpanzees to the Mongols in terms of behavior.

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You're basing your argument on a film title from 40-odd years ago?

Did the day to day usage of this word change so much since then?

[Miyani]

- Apes (Hominoidea) are a branch of Old World tailless anthropoid catarrhine primates native to Africa and Southeast Asia and distinguished by a wide degree of freedom at the shoulder joint indicating the influence of brachiation. There are two main branches: the gibbons, or lesser apes; and the hominids or great apes.

- The Hominidae, also known as great apes, form a taxonomic family of primates, including four extant genera: the chimpanzees (Pan) with 2 species; gorillas (Gorilla) with 2 species; humans (Homo) with 1 species; and orangutans (Pongo) with 2 species.

- A primate is a mammal of the order Primates.In taxonomy, primates include two distinct lineages, strepsirrhines and haplorhines. Primates arose from ancestors that lived in the trees of tropical forests; many primate characteristics represent adaptations to life in this challenging three-dimensional environment. Most primate species remain at least partly arboreal.
With the exception of humans, which inhabit every continent, most primates live in tropical or subtropical regions of the Americas, Africa and Asia. They range in size from Madame Berthe's mouse lemur, which weighs only 30 g (1 oz), to the eastern lowland gorilla, weighing over 200 kg (440 lb). Based on fossil evidence, the earliest known true primates, represented by the genus Teilhardina, date to 55.8 million years old. An early close primate relative known from abundant remains is the Late Paleocene Plesiadapis, circa 55–58 million years old. Molecular clock studies suggest that the primate branch may be even older, originating near the Cretaceous–Paleogene boundary or around 63-74 mya.

A quick research will clear all miss understandings rather than argue something with false information.

[Kalis]

Did the day to day usage of this word change so much since then?

You said...

We are primates not apes.

Now your argument is something else entirely.

We are apes. You were wrong. There is no shame in being wrong every now and then.

[Lord Pebbleton]

Poo being thrown everywhere.

[Techno-Druid]

Actually in my opinion if we where to teach apes sign language or even give them a FOXp2 boost (like we have) and teach them English. Let's say we do create talking apes and teach each ape English, languages evolve as peoples diverge from each other. So it could possibly mean that apes could create their own language based off English, suddenly the 'foot' could become 'fota' or even 'poot'. Or even if we could give them some form of religion, just imagine a group of Buddhist gorillas or Christian orangutans.

[Kalis]

Poo being thrown everywhere.

Like an IRA dirty protest?

[zealo]

Actually in my opinion if we where to teach apes sign language or even give them a FOXp2 boost (like we have) and teach them English. Let's say we do create talking apes and teach each ape English, languages evolve as peoples diverge from each other. So it could possibly mean that apes could create their own language based off English, suddenly the 'foot' could become 'fota' or even 'poot'. Or even if we could give them some form of religion, just imagine a group of Buddhist gorillas or Christian orangutans.

Research have actually been done on the subject of learning apes sign language, and they do not ask leading questions. Its quite interesting how much that differences separates us and them so unless you manage to get the apes to start doing that not much interesting will happen.

[Xilurm]

How can we be apes if evolution isn't real? Checkmate.

How can we be apes if we aliens? Checkmate.

[Miyani]

Screw planet of the Apes, planet of the monkeys is where its at.
These guys will rule us all someday -





Btw that's as big as they grow, got to love those pygmy marmosets.