Getting back into gaming with a bang. (build help)

[DkRich]

So, I am going to be building myself a rig by next month.

I am not sure how to go about this, so I will use the template!

Budget- I can go to 800 on the rig itself. I would prefer 750.

Resolution-1080p

Games / Settings Desired- WoW, LoL, Stream Games, and some Dark Souls. Best setting I can for the money. Would like to have 50-60 fps

Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc)-I would like to stream if possible.

Country- USA

Parts that can be reused-Nope

Do you need an OS?-Yes*

Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)?- Yes. I will start basic eventually buy a naga razer and a nicer headset, etc.*


*I am willing to go over the 800 budget on these items. I am starting with nothing right now.

[Fascinate]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.79 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($40.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer G226HQLBbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Speakers: Cyber Acoustics CA-3602 30W 2.1ch Speakers ($40.89 @ NCIX US)
Total: $778.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-08 15:23 EST-0500

Only thing i didnt include was keyboard/mouse, just pick some cheap ones you like until you are ready to get a naga. I included a nice set of speakers, you really dont wanna cheap out on PC speakers.

[Deleted]

The rig above is alright for the money, but you you will have trouble streaming. You have to up your budget for that like another 150 or so. Also i would try and get a decent ips monitor. You are looking around 140-160bucks for that.

[Fascinate]

Id assume an i3 performs similarly to an i5 for streaming given OBS takes advantage of hyperthreading (being as popular as it is, im sure it does). When using game capture there really is not much work your CPU has to do to stream.

[Remilia]

Not really. i3's hyper threading isn't as on par as physical cores found in i5. It's a tad annoying but oh well.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1198?vs=1192

[Fascinate]

Those are just synthetic benchmarks tho, i bet an i3 would handle streaming a game just fine. My CPU load barely rises when streaming, its not near as bad as some like to make it out to be.

[DkRich]

Well thank you guys you have helped me a ton.

Now I am curious, this discussion over streaming it's over the CPU yes? Well if I wanted too, (And honestly if I have the money I will throw down a little more.) what would an i5 CPU run me in the build Fascinate made? Which is a great build btw!

And this monitor, IPS, what exactly is that?

Forgive me, I am a little ignorant when it comes to rigs. :P

[Remilia]

IPS is a type of panel used in monitors.
Typically there's 3 categories with some having multiple forms and technology achieving the same thing.
IPS (In Plane Switch) and such variations like AHVA, Sharp IGZO and PLS.
VA (Vertical Alignment) and variations like MVA, AMVA etc.
TN (Twisted Nematics) and pretty much no variations actually.

I can get more specific if you want. They all have pros and cons to them.

[Arbiter]

For streaming you could always just set up QuickSync since you won't be using the integrated graphics anyways. Very slight quality loss for a near 0 performance loss. But yea, you're budget is pretty tight to be needing a tower, monitor, OS, AND peripherals. If you have room to up it you'd benefit quite a bit from it.

[DkRich]

IPS is a type of panel used in monitors.
Typically there's 3 categories with some having multiple forms and technology achieving the same thing.
IPS (In Plane Switch) and such variations like AHVA, Sharp IGZO and PLS.
VA (Vertical Alignment) and variations like MVA, AMVA etc.
TN (Twisted Nematics) and pretty much no variations actually.

I can get more specific if you want. They all have pros and cons to them.

Well if you where in my shoes which would your prefer?

And am I really for a loss with my current budget? I just want to game hardcore and stream if need be. If it's the case I may need to wait a little longer. But with my current build what kind of FPS and streaming capabilities am I looking at? Like can I stream and be at 40 fps while playing WoW or league?

Again, I am sorry for the ignorance, but If I am going to invest I want the best choice possible.


Thank you all!

[Remilia]

Well if you where in my shoes which would your prefer?

Personally I prefer IPS and co or AMVA.

[DkRich]

So I was thinking about this throughout the week. What if I bought this set up at facinate proposed, just to get some hardcore gaming in. Then if I can later on buy the bigger upgrade and swap out the part, to help me stream.

Is that a viable option?

[Fascinate]

Prices change daily when it comes to PC components, the one i linked above is likely not valid anymore. Im kind of busy atm but maybe someone else could link you a 800 dollar build. If you wanted to get an i3 now and possibly upgrade at a later date i would include a z97 motherboard.

[Vash The Stampede]

Just going to copy and paste this here. A 290 for $240.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($53.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill NS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-Trooper-Jr (Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($26.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.75 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 22M35D 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $812.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-12 19:57 EST-0500

[Deleted]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($60.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($183.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.98 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.75 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer H226HQLbid 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($120.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $830.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-13 07:01 EST-0500