explain this one

[oxymoronic]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how...lts/ar-AA99ycN

cause i can't - how come when black families reach middle class their kids tend to lose that status? thought if you were born with opportunity you can make things happen

[PIsForPhuck]

Because blacks are continuously taught that their problems are the fault of others and not themselves.

[Reeve]

Could be social pressures from poor black kids in their school to be a part of their group.

[THE Bigzoman]

The article offers explanations. What are you really looking for?

None of which are satisfactory.

Still, most economists lack a clear, definitive explanation for why, after reaching the middle class, many black American families quickly lose that status as their children fall behind.

More likely to be arrested and given felon status, pretty much severing your chances to maintain your parents status?

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Peer pressure is a major issue, I would guess.

Tons of blacks want whats best for the other. I think the "peer pressue" that you speak of is only for younger age groups (teenagers)

[Conspicuous Cultist]

I blame gangster rap.

[THE Bigzoman]

Yes, I was mainly talking about teenage peer pressure.

I think the legal system as well, stop and frisk, etc... might add to the statistics.

That'd be my first guess. But one would think being in the middle class income range would cause a dent in even being in the environments where they happen the most.

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I blame gangster rap.

The brand of music ran and controlled by whites and whose consumer base has a higher proportion of whites?

[Maltah]

thought if you were born with opportunity you can make things happen

You're assuming that an equality of opportunity magically starts to exists once you reach middle class.

[Wildtree]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how...lts/ar-AA99ycN

cause i can't - how come when black families reach middle class their kids tend to lose that status? thought if you were born with opportunity you can make things happen

You ask for an explanation here, when the article says that there are explanations, yet even the experts on the matter don't really know....
If an expert can't answer you, how would a gaming nerd have the answer? lol

[Deleted]

High percentage minority school = failure in life on average.

[Reeve]

You ask for an explanation here, when the article says that there are explanations, yet even the experts on the matter don't really know....
If an expert can't answer you, how would a gaming nerd have the answer? lol

I don't think he's looking for an answer. I think he's just throwing out the stat to get a reaction.

[Wildtree]

I blame gangster rap.

I blame Texas

[THE Bigzoman]

This scares the shit outta me.

I was always under the impression that, for the most part, the worse you could do is fall slightly under your parents status.

[Wildtree]

I don't think he's looking for an answer. I think he's just throwing out the stat to get a reaction.

I thought that too yes....
I was more toying around with the statement than addressing him directly... I know it wasn't easy to notice.
Should have probably worded it differently.

[Reeve]

I blame Texas

I blame Obama. Such a bad influence.

[Conspicuous Cultist]

I blame Texas

I'd blame Iowa but nobody even cares about Iowa except in elections.

I blame Obama. Such a bad influence.

Obama is secretly a muslim that pushes forth a satanist agenda that brainwashes our kids into liking gangster rap.

[Independent voter]

My guess would be that as a black man, finding a good job is more a matter of luck than merit. If you're black and good at your work, it doesn't mean people will hire you.

[Wildtree]

This scares the shit outta me.

I was always under the impression that, for the most part, the worse you could do is fall slightly under your parents status.

yeah. if your parents are situated enough to carry your sore loser ass through life, then you're correct... That's true for all colors, for all classes.
But if you don't work enough, if you don't try to better yourself as much as you can, and there's no support from family, then you're shit outta luck.

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I blame Obama. Such a bad influence.

Texas and Obama, such a destructive combination.

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Obama is secretly a muslim that pushes forth a satanist agenda that brainwashes our kids into liking gangster rap.

He invented it.
Proof: Cowboy's start rapping

[Reeve]

yeah. if your parents are situated enough to carry your sore loser ass through life, then you're correct... That's true for all colors, for all classes.
But if you don't work enough, if you don't try to better yourself as much as you can, and there's no support from family, then you're shit outta luck.

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Texas and Obama, such a destructive combination.

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He invented it.

A lot of success in life comes down to social connections too. So if you're a white guy in an area where people feel more comfortable with other white guys, you're likely to make friends with other white guys. If white guys have the ability to give out the good jobs, then you're more likely to get those jobs if you have friends or family of friends or family that can get you that in. Conversely, if you're a black dude and white guys aren't as comfortable with you on average, you're less likely on average to make friends with white dudes. And if white dudes are overwhelmingly the ones who have the ability to give out the good jobs, then you're less likely to get those jobs if you don't have friends or family of friends or family that can get you that in.

Even if it's not intentional racism, a lot of people naturally gravitate to people of their own ethnicity, and when one ethnicity traditionally held all the socioeconomic power, it can be difficult to break into that.

[Reeve]

Well, if you're a young minority, apparently it's extremely easy to get "caught" in some drug-related nonsense and have a permanent felony on your record and bye bye opportunities, because the "war on drugs" is basically aimed entirely at minorities.

That's one often-used explanation, at least.

Well it's certainly true that police disproportionately target minorities.

[Daymanmb]

I smell a troll..

The article explains plainly; "In terms of opportunity, there are still two Americas, divided by race."