The feral struggle is real

[Dandeleon]

Some love for us in 6.1.

[fenrirx]

Ferocious Bite damage increased by 5%.
Shred damage increased by 20%.
Thrash (Cat Form) damage increased by 20%.
Moonfire (Feral) damage increased by 5%.
Rake damage increased by 5%.
Rip damage increased by 5%.
Swipe damage increased by 20%.

looking good boys

[SolaronTich]

I saw this thread on the front page and read "The feral snuggle is real". I hope this brings some warmth to your hearts.

[teddabear]

Ferocious Bite damage increased by 5%.
Shred damage increased by 20%.
Thrash (Cat Form) damage increased by 20%.
Moonfire (Feral) damage increased by 5%.
Rake damage increased by 5%.
Rip damage increased by 5%.
Swipe damage increased by 20%.

looking good boys

Nice - except they screwed up the one that really matters. Swipe needs about a 70% buff. I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth but 20% to Swipe is really insulting. At least Feral will be good at single target again.

[flooressence]

I didn't even think shred and rake needed a buff, the rip/fb buff is needed but I expected like 40-60% on trash and fb. All good though, should be extremely competitive at single target at least.

[uzu1]

Looking forward to it now

[fenrirx]

Nice - except they screwed up the one that really matters. Swipe needs about a 70% buff. I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth but 20% to Swipe is really insulting. At least Feral will be good at single target again.

to be honest with you i wasnt even looking at that swipe buff, 20% to swipe doesnt change anything its still going to be pretty worthless but those single target buffs outweigh any bad feelings i have towards AoE.

/clap blizzard

[teddabear]

to be honest with you i wasnt even looking at that swipe buff, 20% to swipe doesnt change anything its still going to be pretty worthless but those single target buffs outweigh any bad feelings i have towards AoE.

/clap blizzard

Honestly you would have been better off with no changes other than a 100% buff to Swipe. Middle of the road in DPS and top of the meters in AoE is a good place to be these days.

[uzu1]

The buffs they did is basically telling us to ignore aoe even more and tunnel the boss....

if they did do 100% buff to swipe however, they just have to remove the combo point gen, i'm totally ok with wotlk swipe.

[teddabear]

if they did do 100% buff to swipe however, they just have to remove the combo point gen, i'm totally ok with wotlk swipe.

I think the combo points would have been gone a long time ago if Feral had ever gotten any real attention. I'm fairly certain they could have buffed Swipe 200% if they removed the combo points and it still would be a DPS lost to Swipe over Shred on single target.

[Heywes]

i dont understand threads like these.

hey it's a hybrid class.

you can go melee, ranged tank or heal. which basically means hybrid.

all 4 specs doesn't have to be the best which is why if you only care about melee dps then go warrior or rogue.

if you only care about ranged dps. then go mage or lock.

if a spec sucks you just use another spec. welcome to world of warcraft.

a feral druid wrecks a boomie anyday in PvP do you see boomies whine about that? no.

it's just that WoD Feral is more PvP amazingly while Boomie is PvE.

so pls. just try to think what your playing instead of type these kind of threads.

nobody expects a lock to be super on all 3 specs neither does a rogue or a mage. there is just always 1 spec that is sick while more specs that ain't.

so yeah think again before you play on a druid.

Terrible troll. 0/10.

[COFFEEMAN69]

Nice - except they screwed up the one that really matters. Swipe needs about a 70% buff. I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth but 20% to Swipe is really insulting. At least Feral will be good at single target again.

it really isnt insulting at all. they buffed thrash and swipe by 20% that means are aoe as a whole gets buffed by 20% plus a rake buff for cleave. these buffs are literally perfect. should help us move up to top 3 for single target. our aoe will still suck (which is a good thing since blizz has stated they want classes to have a niche and ours is single target) but our counsil target cleave (ironmaidens/twins) is gonna be insanely good now. i feel like its a bit to much and im sure some of these buffs will be removed before 6.1 release. but either way atleast the devs have finally acknowledged our problems.

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The buffs they did is basically telling us to ignore aoe even more and tunnel the boss....

if they did do 100% buff to swipe however, they just have to remove the combo point gen, i'm totally ok with wotlk swipe.

lol stop bitching. this is exactly what we needed. a buff to our single target and council cleave with a minor buff to our aoe. im pretty sure feral will be the best in the entire game at these 2 types of fights. like ironmaidens/blackhand being the 2 hardest fights in BRF is gonna make playing feral a very satisfying spec. if u wanna have very good aoe then gather a boomkin spec. these buffs will make us worth bringing unless youre in a top 10 guild going for world firsts but in that case they are gonna hand pick the best specs for every fight regardless and feral will be picked for almost all of them considering there is a major target to be dpsd down in every fight. this might even bring back thrash off omen procs with the 2 piece. man i am so exited like im pretty sure these are over buffs and are gonna get toned down cause honestly these seem to strong. there is only 2 things left that bliz would need to do to make us absolutely perfect and that would be a aoe finisher (which im pretty sure they dont want. they probable feel like we should just be dumping our combo points on rips on bigger adds or SR) and a buff to SOTF so we have sustain dps option vs our bust option with incarnation. other then that feral is gonna be one of the better specs in the game now we might fall off next teir if our scaling problem persists threw these buffs but thats no big deal because if we do blizz has clearly shown that they are willing to give us a boost when we need it.

also if u guys think about it this will also buff our mastery stat by alot. means rake/rip/thrash will all amplifies our mastery stat by just enough to bring it past multistrike for our second best stat on single target which means we wont need to get 2 sets of gear unless u really want mastery enchants for aoe fights.

with napkin math this is like a 7-10% buff on single target a 15-20% buff on council cleave fights and more then a 20% buff to our aoe. I'm like a kid at Christmas cause honestly im pretty sure feral is the best spec in the game now.

[teddabear]

They put Feral back where it was. You now have a reason to be included in a raid. I don't think there is any denying AOE is still poor and aggravating. For me personally it's too little too late but I'm glad you guys got buffed enough to be valuable on most bosses.

I believe Aggixx put it around 8% after you get 4 piece, his numbers are pretty accurate. It should put you second in single target with 4 piece. So yeah really nice buff there.

My concern is AoE is very important these days and since Feral rarely receives any attention its a real shame they didn't fix it when they had the chance. I just don't get why Blizzard insists on keeping Swipe as a useless ability.

This is really just a scaling adjustment, you can count on needing these for every tier since Feral still scales quite badly.

Stenhaldi posted his Feral spreadsheet on the other forum. Swipe would have to be buffed by 175% to overtake Shred, so yeh underwhelmed with the 20%. Not saying it needs to be anywhere near that high but why will they not buff it to make it better than Rake spam which is almost universally despised?

[Metaslave]

Maybe you've seen this already. I thought it was pretty funny.

[Deleted]

Oh gee, i have never seen that video posted before

[teddabear]

If this was a hotfix then maybe people would be more excited, but you are talking about possibly a 2 month wait plus 4 tier piece just for scaling fixes. Yeh its a lot better than nothing but still disappointing.

[Deleted]

There is no way they'll delay 6.1 for 2 months.

[teddabear]

There is no way they'll delay 6.1 for 2 months.

Hope not but only blue post I saw was by Lore which seemed to indicate it was no time soon. All we can say for sure is it will be on a Tuesday.

[TheLOOGE]

Don't take Lore's tweets too close to heart. I'm being as nice as I can when I say this but the guy just seems confused most of the time. Best bet would be to rely on precedence. How long does it normally take retail versions to hit live? One-two weeks, historically. Expect it to drop maybe not this upcoming Tuesday but the following Tuesday (2/24) at least. Presumably, the progression race will have concluded by that time.

[teddabear]

the progression race will have concluded by that time.

Exactly the problem which I have been saying for as long as I can remember. If you have a spec that scales so badly that it has to be carried until Blizzard buffs it, it is a useless spec for progression. This is not Rocket Surgery. I can't remember any job I've ever had where I would not be fired for this kind of performance. Either fix the scaling or buff the class at the start of the tier, not after it is too late.