[Movie] Warcraft (June 2016)

[Zulkhan]

By racist, I meant the human who says "they're beasts, they should all be destroyed".

I know, it's just that the "bad guy" who's going to steal the spotlight in the "natives' side" will be someone else entirely, will have a far greater role and very different motives, let alone he's the actual schemer behind everything.

That guy (Karos) I don't even know how much conflict he will bring or not. But there's someone who praised his little performance.

I said it was synonymous and you called bs and told me to stick to the oxford english dictionary.

No, I told you to stick the Oxford English Dictionary on "you know where". Translation: quoting all the 37 conceivable meanings of the word was fairly unnecessary.

My original responding quote showed the second synonym was false in the oxford english dictionary. What comment would get you infracted? Admitting the obvious, that you were wrong?

I don't give a fuck if is the second synonym, my point was that "fallacious" is mostly used as another way to say misleading, deceitful or describe anything lacking logical thought. That's what I meant. It's you who felt the necessity to "correct me" by saying "muh fallacious means false".

I hope you're done with this bullshit or I'll change my mind in regards of that infraction.

[Romano]

I certainly like James Franco a lot more than Taretha...

Although there's something beautiful in the way Caesar has to speak with his eyes that they won't be able to recreate with Thrall, who will quickly learn the human language.

WHat' bad about Taretha ?

[Zulkhan]

From what I've read so far, and obviously I haven't seen the movie yet, he's managed to inject that depth in some characters, like Durotan or Orgrim, but not all of them. And that's a shame, it really is.

Well, there's a reason if he was able to do that with certain characters better than others, and the reason is: novels. You can't add much depth about a character if there's not much of it to begin with. There's a limit to what a director can do. Orgrim and Durotan, of the whole bunch, are the most developed characters when it comes to novels. Draka and Blackhand are as well, to a lesser extent, and I have no doubt they'll stand out. Gul'dan isn't really "deep" but the novels offerred a strong depiction of him as shady, egoistical, megalomaniac schemer who acts humble and "kind" in front of others to deceive other people. From all of this, a director can create depth and nuances.

But when we think at Lothar, King Llane...there wasn't really much to tell about them. Give a son to Lothar to spice the dynamics with Medivh is quite a lot already, much like giving an actual character to Llane's wife. Medivh is an interesting character but not the most developed. Khadgar is probably the better one, but he's probably on the same level of Draka and Blackhand. Orgrim and Durotan will still top them all for being, consequently, the most developed characters in this particular historical period.

Things will surely get better when dealing with other characters strongly established in novels and similar (like Thrall and Arthas).

[Tornwar]

Okay so I got two things here. First!



This scene, to me, seems to be Frostwolves going to drink demon blood. In the Orgrim video we got, we saw Orgirm trying to "stop it" and Durotan being like "no use" holding him back. So... yeah. Probably where they will explain Gul'dan's magic

Second thing...





There is slight differences between these two shots... what is up with that? Why does it look so different suddenly? Is it related to Stormwind's fall?

This is sooo weird. Why the difference?

[Zulkhan]

Because all of those words you are using also mean false. Get over it kid.

Nothing proves a point better, nor shows remarkable signs of maturity like throwing the word "kid" around, towards a person you don't personally know. 10/10 this was priceless, even for someone of your caliber.

False is the exact contrary of "true". It's an absolute. You can say a rating system is misleading or deceitful, you can't say it's "false" or "true". Yeah, they can literally being used as synonims of one another. But guess what, context is king.

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There is slight differences between these two shots... what is up with that? Why does it look so different suddenly? Is it related to Stormwind's fall?

This is sooo weird. Why the difference?

Maybe just different points in time? Since we see the humans retreating through the Dark Portal, maybe the orcs follow them and fight them at the gate?

[Zoaric]

http://i.imgur.com/HGRM6xS.jpg
There is slight differences between these two shots... what is up with that? Why does it look so different suddenly? Is it related to Stormwind's fall?
This is sooo weird. Why the difference?

Dunno. Second picture seems to have some construction going on and an extra gate
to the right, however.

[Wikiy]

Second thing...





There is slight differences between these two shots... what is up with that? Why does it look so different suddenly? Is it related to Stormwind's fall?

This is sooo weird. Why the difference?

It's not the same scene. In the first, you can see a gryphon going towards Stormwind, in the second, a gryphon is leaving Stormwind (not that you can see in the image itself).

If you're talking about the look in general, it's all about the lighting. In the second scene, the Sun is probably rising or setting due to the diffuse, yellow light as well as the angle of illumination.

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It's not the same scene. In the first, you can see a gryphon going towards Stormwind, in the second, a gryphon is leaving Stormwind (not that you can see in the image itself).

He meant structural differences. Compare the arcs in the walls to each other. (Middle and a little left in the first picture, middle and slightly up in the second.)
The first picture's arcs are a lot wider than the second picture's.

[Wikiy]

He meant structural differences. Compare the arcs in walls to each other. (Middle and a little left in the first picture, middle and slightly up in the second.)
The first picture's arcs are a lot wider than the second picture's.

True, that's a bit weird.

[Romano]

True, that's a bit weird.

Either a mistake in editing or perhaps a different point in time, when they reconstructed that spot ?

[Tornwar]

In case people didn't notice, here is the differences from the first picture:

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I opened up the Skies of Azeroth video and compared it.
It has the arcs of the second picture, but not the gate or construction on the right.

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In case people didn't notice, here is the differences from the first picture:

The tower on the left isn't missing, it's just not in frame. If you look at Skies of Azeroth, you see that it's actually pretty far on the left.

[Romano]

The tower on the left isn't missing, it's just not in frame. If you look at Skies of Azeroth, you see that it's actually pretty far on the left.

Not that tower, the arcs at the gryphon nest (in WoW at least) and some other towers in the right wall.

[Zulkhan]

If there are ways to actually ensure that reviews are from people who have seen the movies then you can say it's true, when you have reviews from people who obviously haven't seen the film the rating is false. It's as simple as that. Any false data enters the set and all the data is rendered invalid in these cases.

Nice try, but all you're doing here, in your quite pathetic attempt to be right at all costs, is force absolute terms where these don't fit. They don't literally fit in every context where subjectivity is involved, whatever the extent. It's as much stupid as calling a review "true" or "false". A review can't be "true" or "false", is either reliable or not, unless the one who's reviewing purposely lies about his knowledge. The same applies to rating systems. And the rating system we're talking about in particular (iMDB) is a rating based on "popularity". The very premise doesn't demand that you have actually seen the movie. Which is also why a 1/10 rating system is dumb to begin with, when used to measure "popularity". It just falls to those who likes the idea of this movie and those who doesn't, which makes the 1 and the 10 votes the most logical, within the limits of a rating system that is not reliable by any other relevant parameter (aka, any parameter meant to judge the actual quality of the movie).

And when you're acting like a child, refusing to admit when you're clearly incorrect, what do you expect to be called?

The irony.

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Not that tower, the arcs at the gryphon nest (in WoW at least) and some other towers in the right wall.

I quoted the wrong guy, lol. Sowwie.

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Vegas, Zulkhan, can you two just get a room already? Even I am getting tired of seeing you two go at it.

[Zulkhan]

The rating we're talking about is supposed to be based on someone's viewing of the movie

Quite pretentious, when the movie is yet to be released world-wide. Something that should be logically acknowledged by anyone relying on these sites.

Vegas, Zulkhan, can you two just get a room already? Even I am getting tired of seeing you two go at it.

Do not worry, this is my last shot. No point on going on with this.

[Thontor]

He meant structural differences. Compare the arcs in the walls to each other. (Middle and a little left in the first picture, middle and slightly up in the second.)
The first picture's arcs are a lot wider than the second picture's.

I figured I'd ask Duncan, see if he had an explanation. He didn't believe there were differences at first, but upon closer inspection, he said

possible one of these shots is not in the film. Could be an early build that was later superseded.

https://twitter.com/ManMadeMoon/stat...93177461018624

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One thing that's worth to note is that the Skies of Azeroth video seems to be showing WoW Stormwind, as it has the statues at the front, meaning that if both those two shots are in the movie, then the second picture takes place after the first.

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This is gold. xD