No Ner'zhul as far as I am aware.
But we got Killrogg and his Deadeye
And Kargath and his Bladefist which is fucking massive
I do not care about Elf tiddies or massive blades.
Can we get some Hellscream shots up in here?
Here's my spoiler-free take on the movie, but obviously don't read this if you want to go in completely blind.
I'll give the movie a solid 7/10. I feel like the real problem is trying to compact the huge world of Warcraft (no pun intended) into a 2 hour movie. Being a lore nerd who has read *most* of the books and actually pays attention in the games I of course knew what everything was. However, if I was a complete newbie to the universe I would have had A LOT of questions. Shit just comes up and they don't really explain what it is. Which I guess makes some sense because they don't want the movie to be 4 hours long, but even leaving all that stuff out they still have trouble jamming it all in there.
There were a lot of noticeable differences in the lore. Some were OK, others where like...what the hell? I feel like it's going to hurt the movies going forward because instead of building on the actual foundation of Warcraft lore they are going to have to build and expand on the "movie lore" they've created. Although I can still see hooks where they could guide the story back into alignment with Warcraft canon so maybe not all is lost.
The acting was...meh. It's weird to me that the cgi orcs had more believable acting than the humans. I feel like the lead actor who plays Lothar was just not a great fit for the role. There was an emotional range this movie demanded and he just couldn't deliver. Honestly there were no human-side actors I really enjoyed. I was surprised by the orc actors which were really good. I expected a lot of cringy bullshit from the orc side, but really the only cringy orc acting was Garona, and she's a half-orc.
All that said this movie is like porn for Warcraft fans. There are a lot of props and action sequences that are basically things just ripped out of the games and put on the big screen and it's awesome. Some things could have been better, but all and all I'd say they did a good job recreating the feel of Warcraft on the big screen.
So...yeah...7/10 from this fan. I think the 22% Rotten Tomatoes scores is ridiculous and overly harsh, just look at the audience rating of 81% and don't be afraid to bring your friends and family to this movie! I believe even non-Warcraft fans will still have a lot to enjoy here.
Hellscream, Kilrogg and Bladefist were awesome. I really liked them even if they had almost no lines (except for Kilrogg iirc, who led Garona away at the start). Just wish they had more orc cameos for chieftains like Nerzhul, Zuluhed, Fenris, Rend & Maim as kids. A really weird easter egg to me was the Black Tooth Grin banner which was shown multiple times. Wasn't that clan formed after the death of Blackhand?
Anyone notice this?
When Gul'Dan says only I can control the fel, all the green orcs visibly recoil and are in pain of some sort.
Grommash realising they might have fucked up by drinking the demon blood
I'm sorry, but... Those faces.
There's one thing I didn't quite understand and wondered twice or thrice in the middle of the movie. Why would Medivh/Sargeras actually help the humans (before Sargeras is actually banished when Medivh is dying)? Like in the canyon scene? Is it simply that there is an eternal struggle between the two, with Medivh sometimes managing to prevail in order to do something like that, but never to such a degree that he outright tells everyone he's possessed by fucking Sargeras? ^^
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One day, you're saying how critics' reviews don't matter (when their reviews shit on the movie), and then you light up like a supernova when we get a positive review. Like, dafuq. Decide. Either their reviews don't matter to you or they do.
Sargeras wasn't always in control, you could feel his struggle throughout the movie. He says, ''concentrate, just like old times'' in that canyon scene, like he hasn't been himself in a while. When he has that momment with Garona, that was still him. When he kills Moroes onwards is when Sargeras is in control. You can notice because hes being an ass to Lothar about Callen and CLEARLY lying about meeting with Durotan. Hes setting up the troops to die basicly. That's what makes his last attempt at helping the King so good to me.
Fun fact - You can hear Medivh's incantation in the background at the beginning of the film when Gul'dan is giving his instructions
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Okay, so the visuals were great. I don't think there was a single moment in the film where I went 'eh, that looks like CGI'. But apart from that, holy shit. I didn't think there would be another film that I was really looking forward to that would disappoint me more than Batman v Superman. But Warcraft managed to do it in spades.
Right from the get go, I felt like I was watching a rush job of the way things actually went down. In some weird way, the Orcs have gone from bloodthirsty lunatics in Orcs vs Humans and Tides of Darkness to sympathetic and tragic victims from Reign of Chaos onwards to somewhere in the middle. In the film universe most Orcs are dunderheads who just walk around blindly following leaders whilst one special clan is against it all. Sure, they have the whole honour thing but considering how much effort went into the motion capture to make the Orcs feel real, it'd have been nice if their personalities were less wooden. Durotan filled the role of obligatory sensible Orc, whilst Gul'dan filled the role of power-hungry-for-no-reason bad guy, whilst a smattering of other Orcs were there as cronies or simple background noise. All the actually rich lore that the game's spent time building went down the toilet and was replaced by random stuff in order to move the plot forward and keep it 'concise'. The way Orgrim's character has just been butchered into a lumbering moron is beyond comprehension but it's no surprise given how cardboard cutout almost every single character in the film is.
There's been people who've rubbished Blizzard's attempts at characterisation in the games, but by God, I care more about the story arcs in the games than I did in the film that was made. The humans fared no better with everyone apart from the primary players just being background actors waiting to be killed by Orcs, whilst the main characters were walking cliches. All the 'characterisation' came from exposition. 'My wife died in childbirth so I blamed my son'. Did he? Didn't notice it. Medivh for some reason constantly being paranoid about Khadgar usurping him. Khadgar being a nerd who left the Kirin Tor because reasons. Llane just being 'good guy king' who does everything by the book. His wife wasn't so bad, but that's more because Ruth Negga's just a cool actress. She can sell most stuff. But even the whole 'your my sister first' stuff was so fucking hammy.
In the years preceding the release of the film, some part of me was hoping that the entire first film would serve as the calm before the storm. Not Orcs vs Humans but the prequel to that even. Essentially the Rise of the Horde melded with the Last Guardian, where you see two races in completely different circumstances falling victim to the Burning Legion's machinations. On one hand, you have the Orcs who's way of life is turned upside down by a combination of some Orcs' lust for power and the primitive nature of others. On the other hand, you see civilisation that's almost fallen into decadence because of the peace and prosperity it's experienced that gets manipulated by its most trusted Wizard, whose own rise and fall mirrors them. His hubris to think he could fight off Sargeras on his own will soon mirror how the humans underestimate the Orcs and stay in their own kingdoms instead of properly uniting as required. You'd see Duraton and Orgrim's origins. Their relationship with the Draenei. Ner'zhul's corruption. The relationships that hold together the Eastern Kingdoms. The old Dalaran. Khadgar/Lothar/Garona taking down Medivh properly. But it's all in vain since the Horde comes anyway.
But, no. Let's create a hollow and derivative fantasy instead for the big bucks that China will bring in as will any other locations. Screw quality. Eh, what a disappointment.
A bit off-topic, but if you've managed to watch this with Chinese subtitles :P : in the very beginning when there's a Draenei scene, subtitles tell: "speaks in a beast language". Isn't that hilarious?
That reminds me of 'do not want' from when Vader screams 'NO!' in Revenge of the Sith.
The reason why Dalaren is skyborn is because Duncan thought it looked cool. Argued that in the future they can always find a way to make it go down