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    Burst of speed cooldown

    Rogues are just getting rekt from what I see ingame. Do they just need to adapt or was it a bad change?

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    3 seconds....if they really needed to break roots/slows less than every 3 fucking seconds that just proved how absurdly overpowered it was.

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    this change was definitely need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socialhealer View Post
    3 seconds....if they really needed to break roots/slows less than every 3 fucking seconds that just proved how absurdly overpowered it was.
    It does NOT break roots.

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    A lot of top rogues run shadowstep; It's not a bad talent by any means, maybe you should try that? The 3 second cooldown on BoS was needed, it was too effective for the amount of brain power that went into it, especially if you compare it to the other talents on the tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCDFreaK View Post
    Rogues are just getting rekt from what I see ingame. Do they just need to adapt or was it a bad change?
    So their slow breaker spam has a 3 SECOND cooldown and they are getting rekt now ?
    Cmon man, posts like this are kinda embarrassing.

    They might get 'rekt' like everyone else by OP feral dmg and bugged warriors (sudden dth)

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggischkris View Post
    So their slow breaker spam has a 3 SECOND cooldown and they are getting rekt now ?
    Cmon man, posts like this are kinda embarrassing.

    They might get 'rekt' like everyone else by OP feral dmg and bugged warriors (sudden dth)
    Well you have to look at the bigger picture. For a whole expansion rogues have had the ability to just break free of snares at will. Now this change has to make them deal with snares which most don't seem to be used to doing.

    Subtletys relied on bos not just for escaping but to reset for stealth to reopen with find weakness and what not. Rogues just seem confused right now.

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    I guess the change was needed but I was totally pissed off playing 2's yesterday against resto druids, it was basically impossible to catch them when they were just running around in travel form spamming Faerie Swarm every global. Things like these definitely need a cooldown.

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    I don't see any rogue getting more rekt since that patch, personally. Emphasizing your former frustration a bit much maybe ?

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    Rogues are still absurdly good to be honest. The "nerfs" didnt make any big changes at all...

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    It should have been removed completely, it's still stupid and op

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    Did a few games for cap yesterday as feral/hunter and it didnt seem like the rogues we faced were even slightly affected by our slows.

    It COULD be bots/hacks tho since arenas nowadays are completely infested with those things. More than half of our games were against botters.

    Pretty sad...

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    It is pretty painful. It hit me harder than I thought honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelos View Post
    I guess the change was needed but I was totally pissed off playing 2's yesterday against resto druids, it was basically impossible to catch them when they were just running around in travel form spamming Faerie Swarm every global. Things like these definitely need a cooldown.
    It has a 6 seconds CD. So.. twice as long as your slow breaker. Maybe you should use it more efficiently.

    But as another poster said. Shadowstep have been used by top players for a while. It's a good talent. BoS were just brainlessly easy to deal with. Now it has some kind of thought to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terridon View Post
    It has a 6 seconds CD. So.. twice as long as your slow breaker. Maybe you should use it more efficiently.
    Either you're talking about an ICD people are not aware of or you're mistaken of Faerie Fire when used in animal form as Faerie Swam has no initial CD.

    BoS change is a step into the right direction, but shows how slow they are at making proper changes. They still haven't touched the hunter frost arrow or whatever it's called nor changed Faerie Swarm, which are both mechanics that shouldn't even be in the game. If anything Faerie Swarm should be what Faerie Fire is to feral druids, but for non-feral druids while for feral druids it adds a 50% snare on a 6 sec CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terridon View Post
    It has a 6 seconds CD. So.. twice as long as your slow breaker. Maybe you should use it more efficiently.

    But as another poster said. Shadowstep have been used by top players for a while. It's a good talent. BoS were just brainlessly easy to deal with. Now it has some kind of thought to it.
    As far as i know, faerie swarm doesnt have a cd. Thats the problem. A ranged snare without a CD.

    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=106707/faerie-swarm

    No CD. Any smart resto druid is just gonna apply faerie swarm once every 3 secs and be impossible to catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ermahgerd View Post
    Either you're talking about an ICD people are not aware of or you're mistaken of Faerie Fire when used in animal form as Faerie Swam has no initial CD.

    BoS change is a step into the right direction, but shows how slow they are at making proper changes. They still haven't touched the hunter frost arrow or whatever it's called nor changed Faerie Swarm, which are both mechanics that shouldn't even be in the game. If anything Faerie Swarm should be what Faerie Fire is to feral druids, but for non-feral druids while for feral druids it adds a 50% snare on a 6 sec CD.
    I wasn't aware of that. Just noticed the 6 seconds cd when playing the feral, so asumed it were like that for all specs. My bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Rogues are still absurdly good to be honest. The "nerfs" didnt make any big changes at all...
    "Absurdly good" unless you know how to kite.
    You're a towel.

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    Is there ever going to be an expansion where Rogues aren't the saltiest class? I mean really, there's nothing wrong with the 3 sec CD on BoS.
    Deathknight's do it using disease, blood and the power of the unholy. Warlocks do it with dark demons by their side. Mages do it with summoned arcane powers. Druids do it using the forces of nature. Rogues do it through stealth, poison's, shadows and....from behind. Paladins do it by calling to the light for aid. Shamans do it with the help of the elements. Priests do it through the holy light.
    But warriors....
    Warriors just fucking do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolretadin View Post
    Is there ever going to be an expansion where Rogues aren't the saltiest class? I mean really, there's nothing wrong with the 3 sec CD on BoS.
    What class do you play? Do you do 3v3 and have a decently high rating? All i want is frozen ammo reworked, and faerie swarm on a 5-6 sec cd like conc shot. Spammable ranged slows are just as much of a problem as spammable snare breakers.

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