Blaming only the Rapist is pointless

[Osmeric]

You're right! We should also blame those who make excuses for the rapist.

[Deleted]

No means no, it doesn´t matter if she is dancing around nude rubbing softice on her fun zones. It shouldn´t be that friggin hard to comprehend.

[ellieg]

You think all psychopaths are created?

For the most part. You think every person that has raped someone was born that way? Something lead them to rape and think it was a good idea, or something they felt they had to do. Something made them that desperate. Sure some people are just bat shit crazy but I refuse to believe the majority of rapists were born as psychopaths.

[Wyrt]

If it's the woman's fault then men are little more than animals and should be kept in cages or on leashes at all time.

[ItachiZaku]

Please by all means do provide a situation where the rape of a person is the victims fault???

Prison.
Albino Aryan leader: We hate you, but you did us a solid. We will not protect you, but we will have nothing to do with you. However, if you deal with the blacks at all, we will rape the shit out of you, each day, for the rest of your stay here.

The next day....
Hey Black leader, this'll get me raped, but I need some drugs... sure, i'll shank that new lowbie Aryan for you

That afternoon....
Let the ass raping begin.

Oh, and also, fetish things. Girl likes being tied up. Likes a litlte GB action. Tells her friends she's down for the pound, tells them to surprise her. Again, let's just keep with the black hate for the moment, she has expressed on a few occasions that's she's not into the brothas, they are "too bookoo" for her. The GB begins. In comes a mexican in a luchador mask. Here comes the BF. Next is the neighbor with the lisp. Next is the BFs friend, after black dude. She fights and struggles, but is tied up with a ball in her mouth, so she can't even speak that she doesn't want the black mamba.

[Pum]

Such a narrow-minded perception.

What about the Pakistani grooming gangs that have been raping and abusing over 1500 girls/boys (UNDER AGE) over the past 10 years in Rotherham? What would you like to tell all of those already vulnerable children? That they are partly to blame?

Again with grooming gangs over a decade in Oxfordshire, a further 300 children being abused. Are you going to tell all of them the same thing as well?

50% of women in South Africa would have been raped in their life time, and the victims of these rapes are women for the most part who are simply walking from A to B.

You've painted a very large brush, and it's fundamentally fucked.

[Daez]

Please tell me the mods are still sleeping... Are you FRICKING (not really the word I want to use) kidding me with this? Seriously! There is never an excuse... EVER! Men and women have more control than rabid beasts and even rabid beasts do not rape their women. There is no excuse. When you rape a woman (or when woman rapes a man) it is absolutely because they are a disgusting, vile creature that should be locked away for the rest of their lives. The punishments that the United States justice system gives for rape are absolutely trivial.

[Beefsquatch]

Prison.
Albino Aryan leader: We hate you, but you did us a solid. We will not protect you, but we will have nothing to do with you. However, if you deal with the blacks at all, we will rape the shit out of you, each day, for the rest of your stay here.

The next day....
Hey Black leader, this'll get me raped, but I need some drugs... sure, i'll shank that new lowbie Aryan for you

That afternoon....
Let the ass raping begin.

Oh, and also, fetish things. Girl likes being tied up. Likes a litlte GB action. Tells her friends she's down for the pound, tells them to surprise her. Again, let's just keep with the black hate for the moment, she has expressed on a few occasions that's she's not into the brothas, they are "too bookoo" for her. The GB begins. In comes a mexican in a luchador mask. Here comes the BF. Next is the neighbor with the lisp. Next is the BFs friend, after black dude. She fights and struggles, but is tied up with a ball in her mouth, so she can't even speak that she doesn't want the black mamba.

I....don't have a suitable reaction for this.

[ellieg]

Prison.
Albino Aryan leader: We hate you, but you did us a solid. We will not protect you, but we will have nothing to do with you. However, if you deal with the blacks at all, we will rape the shit out of you, each day, for the rest of your stay here.

The next day....
Hey Black leader, this'll get me raped, but I need some drugs... sure, i'll shank that new lowbie Aryan for you

That afternoon....
Let the ass raping begin.

Oh, and also, fetish things. Girl likes being tied up. Likes a litlte GB action. Tells her friends she's down for the pound, tells them to surprise her. Again, let's just keep with the black hate for the moment, she has expressed on a few occasions that's she's not into the brothas, they are "too bookoo" for her. The GB begins. In comes a mexican in a luchador mask. Here comes the BF. Next is the neighbor with the lisp. Next is the BFs friend, after black dude. She fights and struggles, but is tied up with a ball in her mouth, so she can't even speak that she doesn't want the black mamba.

I love your stories lol.

[Goradan]

No means no, it doesn´t matter if she is dancing around nude rubbing softice on her fun zones. It shouldn´t be that friggin hard to comprehend.

indeed. When a women says no, gets raped and then the rapist says he was "provoked". I am like : What a fucking sad and pathetic excuse to justify you're deprived desires or you're lack of self control.

[Daez]

It is too early to deal with this shit. Fucking Christ.

Nobody is saying people shouldn't take any precautions. People are saying rape prevention that fixates on the victim, often to the exclusion of dealing with the would be perpetrators in any real way, is not a helpful solution. Playing Captain Hindsight with rape victims, especially in the wake of the incident, is not helpful. Teaching people a more healthy version of consent, and eliminating whatever rapey or borderline rapey views and behavior are still socially acceptable is required. At the end of the day though, the person responsible for the crime is the criminal. You can't deserve to be raped. Even if you're "asking for it" in some people's minds, that doesn't make it your fault that you were raped. Holy fucking shit. Fuck.

I'm not sure how much more clear we need to make consent... it boils down to two points:

1) NO MEANS NO!
2) If someone would normally say no if they were actually aware of their situation but are not currently aware of their situation then its a NO!

The very concept of someone that would take advantage of a drunk/drugged/otherwise temporarily or permanently mentally challenged individual for sexual use is just disgusting. We need to look out for each other instead of finding ways to take advantage of each other.

[adamzz]

That's the same reasoning as blaming a bank for getting robbed. "You should've prevented crimes better you coukd have a whole army inside and around the bank to protect it."

[Daez]

http://www.911rape.org/facts-quotes/statistics

That does not suddenly make it excusable. In my opinion it is actually worse because you are doing something horrible to someone you are pretending to allow to trust you.

[Rukh]

I'm glad the reasonable people got here first.

[Daez]

- Increasing risk factors is 100% the fault of the person who takes those risks.
Those two do not overlap.

They do not overlap because they are mutually exclusive. You cannot say rape should never happen and that rape is totally unacceptable then make a statement like... well she/he increased his/her risks. Risks of what? Something that is completely unacceptable to ever happen? In that case, there should be no risks because it simply should not be happening period. I do not care if a girl walks nude into a biker bar or if a 21 year old boy walks nude into a bear bar or whatever that equivalent is walking into a women's bar. There is NEVER an excuse.

[Deleted]

As expected and intended i sparked something.

People are different, be it physical or mental.

I for instance would not get pleasure out of raping a passed out naked girl at a party, someone else might.
Just because i would not rape her, i do not say no one would and she is perfectly fine lying there.

There are a lot of fucked up people on the world. i am very sure that most rapists do not even think what they did was rape and wrong. telling him that rape is wrong is kinda pointless, because he is obviously not capable of getting it. All this rapeculture stuff just makes me angry, it helps no one and just divides us apart.

Of course it is finally the rapists fault, but it is the victims fault for not taking precautions.

I do not run around in the city at night singing around how happy i am that i won a ton of money a few minutes ago, assuming no one would robb me because it is illegal.

The best thing to do is in my opinion, take precautions and if something happens, you lock that individual away. sane people know whats right and wrong without beeing told all the time.

[Wildtree]

dancing around nude rubbing softice on her fun zones.

now there's an idea....

[Aqua]

Mod's are surely asleep, this topic is a wordy but glaring bait trap.

...Yeah I was going to chime in with my few cents but I honestly think I'm wasting words reiterating what the saner people already have.

[Daez]

*looks at thread, decides to leave thread and take a shower instead* Wow

Honey, you can never wash off the horror this thread has caused you.

[Mayhem]

Because rapists go for the easy targets. They don´t like the struggle and hastle and are aroused by People who look like they want it.