Reforging, bring it back please

[melodramocracy]

Reforging still has its uses. You can effectively reforge crafted year, and it would have been a nice boon to several professions if they extended that ability to include non-crafted items as well.

The flaw with something like reforging is that, like so many other aspects of this game, there was no real adverse effect in using it. You got it to do exactly what you wanted, in manipulating stats that had known and reachable caps (which was another flaw). The current 'reforge lite' that can be done on crafteds at least has an element of RNG to the results. Risking item loss or even a failure of the reforge would have brought a nice decision making element into the game.

It's all of no real importance though. Reforging not being here gives devs a bit more control ultimately over being able to tune the game, and less thought process while gaming is considered a benefit to the sort of player they're aiming for.

[ImpalerEU]

No thank you. Reforging was annoying, and unnecessary now.

Fully agree.

[Drilnos]

It's all of no real importance though. Reforging not being here gives devs a bit more control ultimately over being able to tune the game, and less thought process while gaming is considered a benefit to the sort of player they're aiming for.

It was never something that required thought process while gaming, though. It was something you did between gaming, or rather, something you had to do before you could game. And apart from the .1% of people who run their own sims (also not gaming) it required no deeper thought than knowing what websites to visit (which again, is still not gaming).

Which is why it annoys me to see backhanded stuff like "the kind of player they're aiming at." They're aiming at people who play the game, and don't consider filling in drop downs and radio buttons to be gameplay. Which should by all rights be all of us.

[Sting]

Yep, bring it back, the earlier the better.

[Ealyssa]

I play prot/ret paladin.

The other ret has nearly two time more mastery than me...

So yes, stop the bullshit on stats, and give us reforge back.

[SL1200]

I liked customizing my gear. Wod is very bland in that regard. I miss reforging.

[Deleted]

No thanks. Reforging's pointless. I know how to play my class, I don't need reforging to prove to everyone that I know my stat priority.

Only people who complain about lack of reforging are awful players who do 20% less than everyone else and blame it on "well Highmaul doesn't have much X for me", as if replacing 300 X with 300 Y will suddenly make their damage great.

[PrairieChicken]

Yes, the amount of RNG because gear has shit stats is ridiculous.

Also reforging added more customization (yes it was sort of reforge everything your best stat, I agree with that too) instead of being completely relient on RNG.

[Firebert]

I don't even know why they removed it, it was a really good way to play with stats.

Except that you had to go see the gold sink in order to maximise your stats every time you got a drop.

Getting a drop and instantly wearing it feels good.

[zalapski]

No thanks. Reforging's pointless. I know how to play my class, I don't need reforging to prove to everyone that I know my stat priority.

Only people who complain about lack of reforging are awful players who do 20% less than everyone else and blame it on "well Highmaul doesn't have much X for me", as if replacing 300 X with 300 Y will suddenly make their damage great.

This is a silly statement. Your basically saying stats don't mean anything. 300 maybe true. However, reforging would be 600/700 of X for Y.

Take a frost mage for example.
Their best stat is multi-strike. Highmaul was FULL of cloth with MS and hence, Frost was great in HM. Fast forward to BRF. VERY little gear has MS on it and now, where are frost mages? VERY few end-game raiders, raid frost now. IF frost mages could convert that Mastery into MS, frost would be just as strong as it was before.

[xRATJARx]

As many have said, it was only a chore due to hit/expertise. With the removal of these, I believe reforging would be an awesome way to further add an extra layer of customisation. Many people say they hate reforging, but i bet they'd jump at the oppurtunity to reforge any piece if gear that has versatility on it...

[Geckoo]

Many people in this thread understimates the fun and usefulness of stat customization.

- min/max: because there is people that likes to do it and the tools provided are not enough (food, gems, enchants), when stat weights are so close, there is room to toy around and fit personal preferences, specially for the second/third best stat.
- swap specs more easily: different specs priorize different stats, a tool like reforging fits perfectly.
- we usually don't get the loot we want as soon as we want: guess what... reforge also helps with that crappy itemized piece of gear that has 15+ ilvl than your actual armor, is an upgrade, but is not a fun upgrade since it doesn't feel apropiate for your spec.
- Without caps there is nothing that stops you from equiping the loot as soon as you get it. And there is nothing that forces you to use an addon or an external website unless you are already doing it to know better about your stat weights and that stuff.


Reforge was a big step forward. In WoD they removed the biggest problems that the tool had but also added a bunch of new problems that the tool could solve.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.



The only reason I even liked reforging was that we were finally able to balance our hit and expertise out... but then expertise and hit juggling became pointless. The stats themselves became pointless.

I prefer gear with flavor, and at the very least Blizzard has made it so that for most classes, their "best" secondary is barely ahead of their "worst", and primary stats are king above all others, meaning even a moderate ilvl upgrade is an upgrade regardless of stats.

[nVIDIA]

bring haste breakpoint, snapshoting back and then reforging

[Deleted]

A mandatory gold-based cost to make a loot equip-able that requires a portal to the city / being in an outside dungeon with a yak owner versus "Loot -> Better Ilvl ? Equip. Loot -> Not better Ilvl? Do not equip." What a wonderful idea.

[daspels]

No thank you. Reforging was annoying, and unnecessary now.

Do you even know how shit the rogue stats where in HM? Id like the reforge back asap plz.

[Ripster42]

A mandatory gold-based cost to make a loot equip-able that requires a portal to the city / being in an outside dungeon with a yak owner versus "Loot -> Better Ilvl ? Equip. Loot -> Not better Ilvl? Do not equip." What a wonderful idea.

If all you're looking at for whether a piece of gear is an upgrade is ilvl you're doing it wrong.

[Cthulhu 2020]

If all you're looking at for whether a piece of gear is an upgrade is ilvl you're doing it wrong.

If you're keeping pieces 10 ilvls or more lower equipped just because they have desirable secondaries, you're doing it wrong.

[DeadmanWalking]

You have reforging, its called crafted gear and items to reroll the secondary stats.

[RuneDK]

No thanks, it was just a chore.

While it was a "chore" it made me more likely to waste GP, dkp whatever on a side grade since I could reforge into something that benefits me the most...whereas now loot was getting DE'd week one because it was not bis for anyone in the raid...Both are bad design, but reforging is better design as people are more likely to take side grades because of it.