Jade Helm 15.

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Anyone heard about this? If you live in these areas does it bother you the military will be operating there?

From July 15th to September 15th of 2015, the US Army's Green Berets, US Navy Seals, US Marines Special Ops Command and US Air Force Special Ops Command will be taking part in 'Jade Helm 15', 8 weeks of night time drills in 7 states in the southwestern portion of America

http://wtaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2...and.pdf?49be78

[Reeve]

Why would it bother me?

[Independent voter]

Is it my military, the US military?

[Deleted]

A military training in its own country? Absolutely incomprehensible.

[Darsithis]

It sounds as if you feel our military should only ever train in other countries. Training here, in their home country, is some horrible violation of our rights...

Yeah...

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Anyone heard about this? If you live in these areas does it bother you the military will be operating there?

From July 15th to September 15th of 2015, the US Army's Green Berets, US Navy Seals, US Marines Special Ops Command and US Air Force Special Ops Command will be taking part in 'Jade Helm 15', 8 weeks of night time drills in 7 states in the southwestern portion of America

http://wtaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2...and.pdf?49be78

Obviously they are setting out to steal your guns and your flags.

[Tankendog]

Honestly, I would be more worried if out military was not training.

Lack of training is generally what cause shit to go wrong in all fields of occupation.

So this training will be great for desert style fights and elevated combat, as where they are training is a mix of desert to high mountains.

[Rukh]

Why do you think this is a question?

[TrumpIsPresident]

It sounds as if you feel our military should only ever train in other countries. Training here, in their home country, is some horrible violation of our rights...

I'll translate some of the mil jargon to provide a more clear understanding of what this G3 plan is.

Its an operational drill in which a martial subjugation Texas, Utah and Southern California takes place. The scenario is one where the people, including elements of state/local government, have risen up against an "unspecified tyranny" as the DOD calls it.

The drill is also designed to deploy mechanisms in which martial law is used as a preventative measure in states which might lean towards civil disobedience against the United States Federal Government.

My eyebrows raised after reading that JPRA being involved because these are the guys who would be called upon to come and black-bag a particular target and then conducts the sort of scary ass psyops only scene in the most brutal of combat areas. This unit identifies malcontents, agitators, and political leaders within an OPT who may try to organize resistance or create disturbances. They develop and execute the indoctrination programs to reduce or remove antagonistic attitudes.

Now having said all that its not uncommon for such a plan to exist and be drilled but none the less given the ultra-adversarial political climate we're in I'd say anybody who has a concern or problem with their government planning for the subjugation of its people is justified in that notion.

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Why do you think this is a question?

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I'll translate some of the mil jargon to provide a more clear understanding of what this G3 plan is.

Its an operational drill in which a martial subjugation Texas, Utah and Southern California takes place. The scenario is one where the people, including elements of state/local government, have risen up against an "unspecified tyranny" as the DOD calls it.

The drill is also designed to deploy mechanisms in which martial law is used as a preventative measure in states which might lean towards civil disobedience against the United States Federal Government.

My eyebrows raised after reading that JPRA being involved because these are the guys who would be called upon to come and black-bag a particular target and then conducts the sort of scary ass psyops only scene in the most brutal of combat areas. This unit identifies malcontents, agitators, and political leaders within an OPT who may try to organize resistance or create disturbances. They develop and execute the indoctrination programs to reduce or remove antagonistic attitudes.

Now having said all that its not uncommon for such a plan to exist and be drilled but none the less given the ultra-adversarial political climate we're in I'd say anybody who has a concern or problem with their government planning for the subjugation of its people is justified in that notion.

I didn't want to go into the martial law aspect for fear of "conspiracy theory" ban. Ty for explaining it better than I could.

[Reeve]

I'll translate some of the mil jargon to provide a more clear understanding of what this G3 plan is.

Its an operational drill in which a martial subjugation Texas, Utah and Southern California takes place. The scenario is one where the people, including elements of state/local government, have risen up against an "unspecified tyranny" as the DOD calls it.

The drill is also designed to deploy mechanisms in which martial law is used as a preventative measure in states which might lean towards civil disobedience against the United States Federal Government.

My eyebrows raised after reading that JPRA being involved because these are the guys who would be called upon to come and black-bag a particular target and then conducts the sort of scary ass psyops only scene in the most brutal of combat areas. This unit identifies malcontents, agitators, and political leaders within an OPT who may try to organize resistance or create disturbances. They develop and execute the indoctrination programs to reduce or remove antagonistic attitudes.

Now having said all that its not uncommon for such a plan to exist and be drilled but none the less given the ultra-adversarial political climate we're in I'd say anybody who has a concern or problem with their government planning for the subjugation of its people is justified in that notion.

My thoughts are the types of operations they're considering here are similar to the sorts of operations they'd need to conduct in foreign countries as well. And it's important to try these things out on a large scale sometimes, which means off military bases. Getting out of controlled environments can teach you a lot in drills.

I have no problem with it. I expect the military to conduct drills as part of its normal operations. I'm also not really concerned that my government is going to send the military against me either.

[Meestercat]

My question is this: Have the people of New Mexico been told of their neutral, leaning-to-hostile affiliation?

[Independent voter]

"Jade Helm 15" sounds like a WoW thing. Aztecs might've had jade helms.

[TrumpIsPresident]

But why would this be strange? It neither surprises nor worries me that such plans exist and that drills for such plans would be carried out.

The planning isn't strange at all, there are far more obscure G3 scenarios to come out of these DOD think tanks.

Drilling does denote a certain escalation but there's no way to tell from this brief what the motivation for requesting this RMT is.

From the brief this appears to be a pretty standard SOC exercise with the exception of JPRA which, to my knowledge, is a new edition.

[Meestercat]

"Jade Helm 15" sounds like a WoW thing. Aztecs might've had jade helms.

I believe its a launch title for the next Nintendo console.

[Annoying]

My question is this: Have the people of New Mexico been told of their neutral, leaning-to-hostile affiliation?

No. But really, we're covered in military bases and test sites. We have two national labs here. I live like 20 miles from where we blew up the first atomic bomb, and have a chunk of trinitite on one of my shelves. I can sit on my roof and watch them fire missiles at the missile range. It's a pretty interesting place, really.

[TrumpIsPresident]

Ah, I see. So it's likely a "nothing to see here" situation?

Could be, or they are planning for a future they believe to be likely based on information we don't have.

At that point you have to take the conspiracy theory path and wonder under what circumstances would cause the people of these Red States to revolt against the Federal Government.

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No. But really, we're covered in military bases and test sites. We have two national labs here. I live like 20 miles from where we blew up the first atomic bomb, and have a chunk of trinitite on one of my shelves. I can sit on my roof and watch them fire missiles at the missile range. It's a pretty interesting place, really.

Post a pic of the trinite! Put it on the hood of your car so I can see that also. Not saying you don't have them I just want to see both so fuck it.

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Could be, or they are planning for a future they believe to be likely based on information we don't have.

At that point you have to take the conspiracy theory path and wonder under what circumstances would cause the people of these Red States to revolt against the Federal Government.

You seem to be in the know. Have there ever been drills of this scale in recent history? Do you think this is a drill for a foreign nation or a drill that would be against the actual citizens of the USA?

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You seem to be in the know. Have there ever been drills of this scale in recent history? Do you think this is a drill for a foreign nation or a drill that would be against the actual citizens of the USA?

Considering the map it looks more like training for general enviroment areas.

[Laila]

Ah, I see. So it's likely a "nothing to see here" situation?

Unless you're foolish enough to think an armed rebellion in the US is actually a possibility.

A wise man once said...

"While we rantin and ravin about gats... nigga they made them gats, they got some shit that'll blow out our backs, from where they stay at."