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    Iranian backed rebels force Yemen president to flee

    http://news.yahoo.com/report-rebels-...073203837.html

    So with Iran spreading discord around the middle east ("helping fight Isis" in Iraq, messing with Yemen, still holding "Death to X western countries" public rallies) Is their actually a good reason we are giving in to any concessions at all in negotiations with them?

    This is not even a political issue, but both sides are attempting to make it into one (In before people come in touting the party line on it, to the letter, only reading the first line) Neither side should support helping out Iran as long as they are helping to overthrow what was a somewhat stable country near them.

    Working to destablize the region is forcing the "Gulf Arab" states to respond in kind:

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/w...cle4391963.ece


    Showing any support to Iran right now is only emboldening these moves, and is moving towards a theater wide conflict with the gulf states being drawn in, which will effect Western countries in a huge way.

    Also this, from Iraq:

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20...URL_shortening

    Iranian/Iraqi forces stalled? Call in for a US airstrike! Politics makes for some weird ass bedfellows...to bad in this case all it is doing is spreading even more discord.
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    Ironic isn't it? The world is full of jerks, whether the US intervenes or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undead Puppy View Post
    Ironic isn't it? The world is full of jerks, whether the US intervenes or not.
    The US would need to stop intervening for a while before you can make that claim (and expect to be taken seriously).
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    The US would need to stop intervening for a while before you can make that claim (and expect to be taken seriously).
    If they stopped intervening you can be damn sure things would get WORSE not better. China, Russia and pretty much anyone with aggressive geopolitical interests will run rampant.
    I know all the cool kids hate the US and people feel the need to jump on the bandwagon, but the alternative to the American World Police is not better. You simply can't trust others to behave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undead Puppy View Post
    If they stopped intervening you can be damn sure things would get WORSE not better. China, Russia and pretty much anyone with aggressive geopolitical interests will run rampant.
    I know all the cool kids hate the US and people feel the need to jump on the bandwagon, but the alternative to the American World Police is not better. You simply can't trust others to behave.
    Yes our intervention is such a success story. Propping up a Saudi regime that beheads people for "witchcraft", thank god the Russians arent propping up dictators and spending trillions of dollars and thousands of lives.

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    Not like the Yemeni President backing/allowing US drone strikes against his own people had anything to do with his people wanting him out...no it's all Iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Shia vs Sunni round infinity.

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    Yes our intervention is such a success story. Propping up a Saudi regime that beheads people for "witchcraft", thank god the Russians arent propping up dictators and spending trillions of dollars and thousands of lives.
    You do realize that there is more to this planet than the Middle East right? If the US were to cease all military activity in the world, most of Eastern Europe, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, etc. countless people would die. Russia and China will rip apart everything they can get their tentacles on, and it wouldn't be the first time they'd do it.

    Also your post lost all credibility when you used Russia as an example of a "good" country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undead Puppy View Post
    You do realize that there is more to this planet than the Middle East right? If the US were to cease all military activity in the world, most of Eastern Europe, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, etc. countless people would die. Russia and China will rip apart everything they can get their tentacles on, and it wouldn't be the first time they'd do it.

    Also your post lost all credibility when you used Russia as an example of a "good" country.
    Where did I say anything about Russia being good? Also nice fear propaganda, did your buddies at GE give you that line to shill with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Where did I say anything about Russia being good? Also nice fear propaganda, did your buddies at GE give you that line to shill with?
    You are using ad hominem attacks. You have added exactly nothing of value to the world with your statement. The Truth of the matter is that USA is nicest hegemon that has existed. If we withdraw from the globe more people will die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by u13erfitz View Post
    You are using ad hominem attacks. You have added exactly nothing of value to the world with your statement. The Truth of the matter is that USA is nicest hegemon that has existed. If we withdraw from the globe more people will die.
    It must be really convenient to have an opinion like "If we withdraw from the globe more people will die" that is not only unprovable, but allows you to scare people into continuous warfare

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    Related article.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...assador-threat

    Ambassador New World Order needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starquake View Post
    Yeah, its starting to turn into a regional conflict involving multiple countries, a proxy war between the gulf states and iran mostly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    It must be really convenient to have an opinion like "If we withdraw from the globe more people will die" that is not only unprovable, but allows you to scare people into continuous warfare
    Well on the Korean peninsula it's a likely outcome, and China hasn't exactly been subtle about it's territory demands.
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    Well on the Korean peninsula it's a likely outcome, and China hasn't exactly been subtle about it's territory demands.
    If the Koreans havnt built up a defense after 60 years thats their problem

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    need to be changed to SA and allies are attacking houthies
    " In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who is respected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers"

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    Yemen was "relatively stable" ??

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    Anyone have a link proving Iranian support? I haven't even seen anything detailing what that "support" is. I see a lot of neoconservatives trying to spin this like an "Iran Rising" story. But no proof.

    //Please don't cite Washington Times or Daily Mail, they use motivated reasoning when it comes to Iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfey View Post
    Anyone have a link proving Iranian support? I haven't even seen anything detailing what that "support" is. I see a lot of neoconservatives trying to spin this like an "Iran Rising" story. But no proof.

    //Please don't cite Washington Times or Daily Mail, they use motivated reasoning when it comes to Iran
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0JT17A20141215


    GCC intervention was bound to happen sooner or later, Saudi's don't want Iranian proxy on their southern border, few regional countries don't want bab el mandeb strait under Iranian control.
    Last edited by Mavett; 2015-03-26 at 06:50 AM.

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