Lecturer - Student relationships.

[x_Fiona_X]

So, on my course one of the girls has recently (we think, we don't know how long for exactly) started a relationship with our lecturer. They're both consenting adults (18+), so age isn't an issue. My problem with this is the fact that it's having an impact on her grades, in a positive way.

She was due to fail one of her assignments, and the lecturer she's having a relationship with actually graded her higher than deserved. Understandably this annoys me, because while the rest of us work hard and put in a lot of effort, this particular student is obviously being given preferential treatment.

Now I'm conflicted on what to do, they're both great people, don't get me wrong. I would hate for our lecturer to lose his job (potentially) or for her to be expelled in the final year of our course. However, I feel pretty irate about the whole grading higher thing.. I'm not sure what to do.

So, my question is, would you tell someone or not?

*I'd just like to point out, we have seen them being "intimate" together, while drinking and sober when we're out at the local bar etc, so it's not just a "feeling of something going on" >.<

[vindicatorx]

So, my question is, would you tell someone or not?

I would be 100% positive this was for sure happening before I said a word to anyone else. If they really are it is unethical for that lecturer to remain in that position and more than likely there are serious University rules prohibiting it. Banging your professor for a grade is pretty pathetic in my opinion. DO not do something if you are not 100% sure though.

[x_Fiona_X]

I would be 100% positive this was for sure happening before I said a word to anyone else. If they really are it is unethical for that lecturer to remain in that position and more than likely there are serious University rules prohibiting it. Banging your professor for a grade is pretty pathetic in my opinion. DO not do something if you are not 100% sure though.

We're 100% certain..that's why myself, and others, are unsure of what to do... >.< Although we don't think she's doing it just for the grades.

[Independent voter]

Is the lecturer grading on a curve? If not forget about it.

[nelly676]

So, on my course one of the girls has recently (we think) started a relationship with our lecturer. They're both consenting adults (18+), so age isn't an issue. My problem with this is the fact that it's having an impact on her grades, in a positive way.

She was due to fail one of her assignments, and the lecturer she's having a relationship with actually graded her higher than deserved. Understandably this annoys me, because while the rest of us work hard and put in a lot of effort, this particular student is obviously being given preferential treatment.

Now I'm conflicted on what to do, they're both great people, don't get me wrong. I would hate for our lecturer to lose his job (potentially) or for her to be expelled in the final year of our course. However, I feel pretty irate about the whole grading higher thing.. I'm not sure what to do.

So, my question is, would you tell someone or not?

bulllllfucking shit story. how would you know that she was going to fail one of her assignments. Then how would you even know what her grade was.

come the fuck on MMOchamp.

[x_Fiona_X]

bulllllfucking shit story. how would you know that she was going to fail one of her assignments. Then how would you even know what her grade was.

come the fuck on MMOchamp.

Because we saw her assignment, we're quite a close class, it didn't even meet the pass criteria. Claim it's "bullsh*t" all you want, I'm asking for advice, we KNOW and have SEEN it's going on. -.-

[nelly676]

Because we saw her assignment, we're quite a close class, it didn't even meet the pass criteria. Claim it's "bullsh*t" all you want, I'm asking for advice, we KNOW and have SEEN it's going on. -.-

"saw her assignment" how would you see her assignment, and how would you know what her grade is. I have never once in my college career seen somone elses assignment with a grade on it, not once. seems convenient for your story tho.

[Blueobelisk]

I don't know. It depends. If I think something interesting could happen and I had evidence maybe I'd report them just to see the fun that would ensue. More than likely I'd be lazy because doing stuff seems like a hassle.

[x_Fiona_X]

"saw her assignment" how would you see her assignment, and how would you know what her grade is. I have never once in my college career seen somone elses assignment with a grade on it, not once. seems convenient for your story tho.

Most likely because she's the least educated in the class in terms of our course content and asked myself, and others for help with her work? Not to mention she told us her grade after receiving it. Just because it hasn't happened to you, does not mean it can't happen elsewhere. I have no reason to lie, at all.

[Blueobelisk]

If I encourage you to report them will you do it and post the results here or PM them to me? This could be entertaining.

Are you in a private school? Or is this like some community college.

[x_Fiona_X]

If I encourage you to report them will you do it and post the results here or PM them to me? This could be entertaining.

Are you in a private school? Or is this like some community college.

I'm at University, final year. Well, I don't know how I'd feel about that.. I honestly don't mind about two people being together, regardless of them being student & lecturer, it's just the whole grading thing.. Not that i'm jealous or anything, just seems a little unfair.

[cuafpr]

if true most schools have polices against this. however it goes on, little tit for tat. I even knew a girl in college that did it for grades.....

[Hupriest]

The problem with this though is that all you have is circumstantial evidence at best and if you accuse them of wrong doing and you are wrong (or the administration is unable to verify) this will fly back at you and hit you hard. This will taint your reputation if you are wrong and there is a reason why no one else who knows has pulled the trigger. Unless you can get a picture of them snogging, I say drop it and let it go. She is only damaging her own future (no one wants to hire a complete idiot who doesn't know what they are doing) and he is jeopardising his career with this behaviour.

I'll end this with this question to you op: 'What do you get out of it by telling the administration? Whether or not they are doing something wrong is inconsequential with regards to your own future and your current path towards graduation. If you can find anything positive to this question, then go ahead and alert your school to this behaviour. Otherwise, best to ignore and look out for yourself.

[Blueobelisk]

It's inappropriate, it's affecting his ability to teach your class and distracting the other student's, and it's tarnishing the reputation of the university you're paying hard earned money (or life crushing debt) toward tuition for. This man should be punished.

Here's what you do:

1. Get evidence of their relationship. Not heresay and what you people see in class.
2. Anonymously email the provhost or president of your school saying that you're a student in so and so class and that the teacher is a pervert and present the evidence you have.
3. Offer the president a choice of:
A. Hush up money.
B. Fire this guy and give you some good grades.
4. If he doesn't comply, present your evidence to the local news station and sue the school.
5. Pay me my 20% finder's fee.
6. Graduate and struggle to get a job like the rest of college graduates.

[zephid]

It's unethical, report them.

[Tomorrowland]

Honestly, leave it be. If she is getting better grades then you, explain how it effects you. If she happens to go for the same job as you and your course allows, and she gets it because her grades are higher, it will quickly come to light that she has no idea wtf is going on and will make you look more favourable when you prove to them you do know what you are doing.

[x_Fiona_X]

I'll end this with this question to you op: 'What do you get out of it by telling the administration? Whether or not they are doing something wrong is inconsequential with regards to your own future and your current path towards graduation. If you can find anything positive to this question, then go ahead and alert your school to this behaviour. Otherwise, best to ignore and look out for yourself.

I fully understand where you're coming from, and for the most part, if not all, no I don't see anything positive for myself personally. It's more as a group we're concerned about the grading being unfair, and whether we'd be involved in not bringing it forward since we all know of it happening.

It's inappropriate, it's affecting his ability to teach your class and distracting the other student's, and it's tarnishing the reputation of the university you're paying hard earned money (or life crushing debt) toward tuition for. This man should be punished.

Here's what you do:

1. Get evidence of their relationship. Not heresay and what you people see in class.
2. Anonymously email the provhost or president of your school saying that you're a student in so and so class and that the teacher is a pervert and present the evidence you have.
3. Offer the president a choice of:
A. Hush up money.
B. Fire this guy and give you some good grades.
4. If he doesn't comply, present your evidence to the local news station and sue the school.
5. Pay me my 20% finder's fee.
6. Graduate and struggle to get a job like the rest of college graduates.

Thank you for the .6 point, as if I wasn't stressing enough about that already.. See, I would honestly feel really guilty about doing that. I don't think it impacts my grades, at least I hope not, but am I somehow complicit in covering this up knowing about it? We've seen it happen in person, under the influence of alcohol & not.

[Hupriest]

It's inappropriate, it's affecting his ability to teach your class and distracting the other student's, and it's tarnishing the reputation of the university you're paying hard earned money (or life crushing debt) toward tuition for. This man should be punished.

I agree with you that it is inappropriate, but what does that have to do with him at all? Unless the two are play footies and giggling while sharing notes, I doubt it is a huge distraction to the class. I would be pissed too if someone could whore their way through school but it will not effect me in the grand scheme of things. Also, I do not believe in the 'tarnishing of school rep', there are bad eggs in all schools and the actions of one do not effect the academic integrity of all. So long as your school is recognised as being able to educate its students in a sufficient matter, no one is going to care that one of your profs got a happy ending.

The prof should be punished (if this is true) but it is not the students place to play the Ethical Police. He gains nothing out of it except feeling 'good' which I disregard since you can pay a mortgage with it.

[Endus]

To be utterly frank, as a student you're ill-equipped to be able to assess why your instructor may have given a certain grade. If you've got reasons other than the grading to suspect there's an inappropriate relationship, you can bring it up with the head of your department. If you just don't understand the grade, though, and that's why you suspect there's something else going on, I'm gonna suggest that the issue lies with your limited understanding of the instructor's grading scheme.

I deal with students all the time (well, once or twice a term, really) who try and pull this kind of thing, thinking they understood how the marks were given and that there was some sort of bias against them, or for another student, and every time, it turns out they didn't understand the evaluation system, instead.

Not saying there's definitely nothing going on, but "I don't understand why she got a better grade than me" isn't reason to think she's sleeping with the prof.

[Hupriest]

Thank you for the .6 point, as if I wasn't stressing enough about that already.. See, I would honestly feel really guilty about doing that. I don't think it impacts my grades, at least I hope not, but am I somehow complicit in covering this up knowing about it? We've seen it happen in person, under the influence of alcohol & not.

I would say no since it is still all speculation at this point. If you had hard proof and didn't go forward with it, then yes. Otherwise, this is purely here-say.