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    I love doing the generalizations game. I saw a few Jewish people eating donuts. Why do Jewish people like donuts so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
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    I agree with this post and all of the hard to read words it contains.

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    Let's generalize everything and everyone.

    Then read this article and listen to their music.

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    oh boy here comes the circlejerk parade of the usual suspects spewing the usual paranoid one liners. complaining about media conspiracies and discrimination.
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    Christians don't want to to ally themselves with Muslims.

    Also you don't have to believe in something 100% to do something, if I did, I would not have a job, and many other people wouldn't either. They are not asking for acceptance, just tolerance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Believe it or not, not all Christians buy into the false oppressed WASP mentality. So don't attempt to lump them all into one group and say that they fall under your victimized mentality.

    As for the case at hand, it's pretty damn obvious to anyone not attempting to freak out with counterfactuals and proof surrogates that people would not be incensed unilaterally at "christian bakeries" for denying homosexuals a wedding cake or other baked goods or some such relatively insignificant comestible, and instead are incensed that (any) humans are being denied the basic services of (any) business based solely on the circumstances of their birth.

    If a gay trans-gender bartender were refusing to serve asian people, it'd be just as wrong as a "christian bakery" denying service to gay people.


    People are attempting to dilute the subject at hand (equal rights) by tossing random proof surrogate or counterfactual wrenches in to attempt to manually obfuscate the problem based on their own obstinance in a further attempt to hand-wave actual issues away.
    It's not about serving someone who's gay a pizza. The girl at the Indiana bakery said she had no problem baking one for someone who is gay. It's baking one for a gay wedding or a service for a gay wedding. It went against her beliefs. Keep moving the goal post though.

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    oh boy here comes the circlejerk parade of the usual suspects spewing the usual paranoid one liners. complaining about media conspiracies and discrimination.
    Well it's kind of apparent.....just sayin. How come the MSM hasn't targeted a Muslim bakery? Why is it always Christian establishments? I'm looking forward to your reply.

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    Christians are easy targets because they don't fight back, so is it due to cowardice on the left?
    Cowardice and hypocrisy are in the very core of the left-wing ideology, as is the irresistible trait to bow down and become an apologist to any sufficiently ruthless and totalitaristic regime, religion or ideology. Lefties don't fight evil; they join it and betray good people to it.


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    It has never been about equality.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathcries View Post
    It's not about serving someone who's gay a pizza. The girl at the Indiana bakery said she had no problem baking one for someone who is gay. It's baking one for a gay wedding or a service for a gay wedding. It went against her beliefs. Keep moving the goal post though.

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    Well it's kind of apparent.....just sayin. How come the MSM hasn't targeted a Muslim bakery? Why is it always Christian establishments? I'm looking forward to your reply.
    no your making up bullshit to suit your own victimization complex just keep going no need to stop now.
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    It has never been about equality.



    Oh Snap. I felt the wind of that one. Irony at it's finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    no your making up bullshit to suit your own victimization complex just keep going no need to stop now.
    Good reply. You've convinced me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathcries View Post
    It's not about serving someone who's gay a pizza. The girl at the Indiana bakery said she had no problem baking one for someone who is gay. It's baking one for a gay wedding or a service for a gay wedding. It went against her beliefs. Keep moving the goal post though.
    These people bake wedding cakes. They're asking them to preform a service they'd perform for anyone else: to make a certain style of cake.

    I could get into some tangential argument about whether they should care what its use is (i.e what if the buyer intended to throw it off a bridge for funzies?) but I don't even need to do that. Now, instead of producing the product they produce, they argue that producing this product for this type of person is something they won't do, based solely upon how that person was born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathcries View Post
    Well it's kind of apparent.....just sayin. How come the MSM hasn't targeted a Muslim bakery? Why is it always Christian establishments? I'm looking forward to your reply.
    Probably because most cities don't have a bigoted Muslim bakery to target, whereas they probably do have a bigoted Christian bakery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathcries View Post
    Hmmm. Check this out.

    Draw a picture of a person. Write "Muhammad the Prophet" under it. Nothing disrespectful. Ask a child to draw a nice man and use that.

    Take the picture to an Indiana print shop, photo shop, copy shop, or other business that can reproduce an image in quantity and is owned and operated by a faithful follower of Islam. Ask for help copying the image. Film the results.

    But you won't. Hypocrisy. You has it. That and of coarse cowardice.
    You assume much about people you don't even know, but here's where the analogy falls apart:

    There's a difference between going into a store and asking for a cake when you're not 100% of the store owners 'Core values', then to walk into a store you know is owned by a person of faith to deliberately antagonize them. As far as I'm aware, these men/women who want their weddings cakes aren't doing so to deliberately antagonize the store owners. (Well at least not yet. As is the nature of these things, I'm sure when the dust settles we'll have plenty of people going out of their way to rub their victory in the faces of the opposition.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathcries View Post
    Hmmm. Check this out.

    Draw a picture of a person. Write "Muhammad the Prophet" under it. Nothing disrespectful. Ask a child to draw a nice man and use that.

    Take the picture to an Indiana print shop, photo shop, copy shop, or other business that can reproduce an image in quantity and is owned and operated by a faithful follower of Islam. Ask for help copying the image. Film the results.

    But you won't. Hypocrisy. You has it. That and of coarse cowardice.

    Keep picking on the Christians though so you can stay in your safe zone to make you feel superior.
    So you don't like what some muslim business do but you want christian being able to discriminate the same ????

    I don't really understand... Put discriminating business down, no matter them being christian, hindu or muslim. But don't preach for christian's right to discriminate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    Probably because most cities don't have a bigoted Muslim bakery to target, whereas they probably do have a bigoted Christian bakery.
    I just posted some up above. If you move the goal post to the right and forward a little bit you might be able to make the goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    no your making up bullshit to suit your own victimization complex just keep going no need to stop now.
    You bring up an important point, Victimization Complex. Our entire society is based on the victim culture. The constant screeching of racial oppression, religious oppression, being corporate slaves, etc. The constant victim complex is a problem on all sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    "Omg why are you outraged that a law passed in indiana that made it legal to discriminate but not outraged that a conservative pretended to be gay and walked into a muslim bakery and asked for a cake? Such hypocrisy. Much sad. Wow."
    And why aren't you outraged? How is this different?

    I'll be curious how the usual suspects spin this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    So you don't like what some muslim business do but you want christian being able to discriminate the same ????

    I don't really understand... Put discriminating business down, no matter them being christian, hindu or muslim. But don't preach for christian's right to discriminate.
    I'm not preaching about Christian's rights. Where did I do that? I said how come the media only targets Christians. WHat about the other bigots? How come I don't hear about it from the left going after other bigots. It's always Christians. If you going to crucify one set of beliefs you should go for all. Including the gays who refused the Christian to bake anti gay cakes.

    However it seems your set of rights and beliefs trump others rights and beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathcries View Post
    I'm not preaching about Christian's rights. Where did I do that? I said how come the media only targets Christians. WHat about the other bigots? How come I don't hear about it from the left going after other bigots. It's always Christians. If you going to crucify one set of beliefs you should go for all. Including the gays who refused the Christian to bake anti gay cakes.

    However it seems your set of rights and beliefs trump others rights and beliefs.
    And this is exactly why ALL business owners should be able to determine who they will engage in commerce with.

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    Interesting Videos - Theodore Shoebat the son of a known Anti-LBGT Crusader who was already found to be a farce with his "Mark of the Beast" Hoax. Why don't you get Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Michelle Bachman to tell us about how down trodden the White Christian Base is and we can all circle jerk here together over it.

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