Gunfight Between Uber Driver On-Duty and Armed Man

[Zantos]

Since none of you are actually addressing my contention and concern in the OP in regards to the factor of including guns in Uber cabs, I'll just let the facts speak for themselves.




http://www.newscientist.com/article/...l#.VTYkpSFViko
http://www.ajph.org/cgi/content/abst....2008.143099v1

Oh no, actual statistics!

Anyways, the fact that you people won't even soundly consider letting clients know where or not their driver has a goddamned lethal weapon on them is pretty fucking astounding. Let me know when you put the facts together.

Imagine that, having a gun can get you shot. Who would have thought!!!! One link is from 2009 and the other seems to have nothing to do with your argument.
So, you want the taxi driver to inform them that they might have a concealed weapon? Here is some research for you
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/pf/2012...s-jobs/10.html
http://www.redeyechicago.com/news/lo...929-story.html
http://dangerousjobsguide.com/home/d...bs/taxi-driver - more recent then your study showing the job as the 8th most dangerous job in america
https://www.osha.gov/Publications/ta...-factsheet.pdf - Goverment site saying that they are 20times more likely to be killed on the job

Statistics about how many lifes guns save
https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18319&page=16 - Government ordered study showing that those who used a gun in self defense were Less Likely to be harmed
http://akdart.com/gun3.html - Long list of times where guns saved lifes

There are some "statistics". Let me know when You put the facts together and realize that not only do taxi drivers have a Very obvious reason to have guns, but guns do more good then harm. In this instance, it saved dozens of lifes.

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That's ridiculous. The client has no professional responsibilities.

Nor do the taxi drivers. Why should they inform a potential thief or killer that they are packing. What does that do other then get them shot without so much of a chance at self defense.

[tj119]

Uber drivers use their own cars, correct? If so this is a non issue and you are just bitching for the sake of bitching. He is not using anyone else's property for his job therefor he should be allowed to carry his concealed weapon as he would if he was just going for a Sunday drive.

[zito]

That's ridiculous. The client has no professional responsibilities.

It doesn't matter because a client can inflict harm to the provider. What if that gunman that the taxi driver shot was his client and just dropped him off?

[Bushtuckrman]

I don't have the words holy shit.

Shit happens in life, sometimes things happen outside of your control and you just have to hold on and hope you make it out alright. Can't stop somebody deciding on going on a killing spree and you can't blame somebody from stopping him when he does do it even if it puts you in risk.

[tj119]

Imagine that, having a gun can get you shot. Who would have thought!!!! One link is from 2009 and the other seems to have nothing to do with your argument.
So, you want the taxi driver to inform them that they might have a concealed weapon? Here is some research for you
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/pf/2012...s-jobs/10.html
http://www.redeyechicago.com/news/lo...929-story.html
http://dangerousjobsguide.com/home/d...bs/taxi-driver - more recent then your study showing the job as the 8th most dangerous job in america
https://www.osha.gov/Publications/ta...-factsheet.pdf - Goverment site saying that they are 20times more likely to be killed on the job

Statistics about how many lifes guns save
https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18319&page=16 - Government ordered study showing that those who used a gun in self defense were Less Likely to be harmed
http://akdart.com/gun3.html - Long list of times where guns saved lifes

There are some "statistics". Let me know when You put the facts together and realize that not only do taxi drivers have a Very obvious reason to have guns, but guns do more good then harm. In this instance, it saved dozens of lifes.

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Nor do the taxi drivers. Why should they inform a potential thief or killer that they are packing. What does that do other then get them shot without so much of a chance at self defense.

B-b-b-but someone just getting a ride home would never assault a taxi driver!!!!!! *que heavy mouth breathing*

[Stormdash]

If I was an uber driver, I wouldn't point out a concealed weapon either. Never know if you've got some bedwetter who is going to come unglued at the concept; I know I don't mean them any harm, I don't know what their intentions toward me are, though.

[Bryntrollian]

Its called a " concealed " carry permit for a reason...

[Kulanae]

http://chicagoist.com/2015/04/20/the...r_who_shot.php



There should seriously be legislation against taxi drivers being armed like this without the passenger's knowledge. This brings an important legal aspect to Uber Taxi schemes that hasn't been discussed before: the bypassing of taxi regulations leads to events like the driver committing to gunfights and potentially involving mass killings with your taxi commute.

It's one thing to have your wild wild west concealed carry laws, it's another to bring an unknowing potential victim into the situation without their knowledge that the driver has a gun. Statistically, you already throw your client into increased chances of injury and death by even having a gun. The very fact that an Uber driver, without all of the state-mandated taxi driver union regulations, is holding a gun, means that every client has a chance of a lethal ride.

Please, call your senators and congresspeople to pass legislation against Uber's willful employment of gun nuts, and press Uber to fire this individual, and other individuals who bring concealed weapons to the workplace, and let the consumer know beforehand whether or not their driver has a lethal weapon in the car.

Did you read your own post?

"The 47-year-old Uber driver, whose car was parked nearby after having dropped off a passenger, saw what was happening and took action."

[lockedout]

Conceal carry permit, working as intended.

[zito]

Conceal carry permit, working as intended.

And given to someone who isn't mentally insane.

[prwraith]

http://chicagoist.com/2015/04/20/the...r_who_shot.php



There should seriously be legislation against taxi drivers being armed like this without the passenger's knowledge. This brings an important legal aspect to Uber Taxi schemes that hasn't been discussed before: the bypassing of taxi regulations leads to events like the driver committing to gunfights and potentially involving mass killings with your taxi commute.

It's one thing to have your wild wild west concealed carry laws, it's another to bring an unknowing potential victim into the situation without their knowledge that the driver has a gun. Statistically, you already throw your client into increased chances of injury and death by even having a gun. The very fact that an Uber driver, without all of the state-mandated taxi driver union regulations, is holding a gun, means that every client has a chance of a lethal ride.

Please, call your senators and congresspeople to pass legislation against Uber's willful employment of gun nuts, and press Uber to fire this individual, and other individuals who bring concealed weapons to the workplace, and let the consumer know beforehand whether or not their driver has a lethal weapon in the car.

Wait..fucking really?

You're upset that a taxi driver saved lives?

Get the fuck out.

And honestly who doesn't expect a cab driver to own a gun and have it with him? What kind of rank moron lets people into his car with 0 protection.

[Fencers]

This wasn't too far from the train stop I get off at for my morning coffee. Like 1 block away.

The Uber driver saved people from the account I read a few days ago in the local paper. I'm okay with this situation.

[Hammerfest]

Yeah, the only people who are upset and want to get after the Uber driver for this are those who don't think citizens should be able to protect themselves.

[Bushtuckrman]

If you were wondering if you're an sjw then agreeing with OP would probaly be a strong indication that you are.

[Mondroc]

If you were wondering if you're an sjw then agreeing with OP would probaly be a strong indication that you are.

I want to be a secret jabberwocky wrestler

[Hyve]

This is the exact purpose of those laws that allow people to carry guns with them. Not to walk around malls or the streets with them, but to act as a means to defend themselves and others.

[Ghostpanther]

This is the exact purpose of those laws that allow people to carry guns with them. Not to walk around malls or the streets with them, but to act as a means to defend themselves and others.

Exactly. Well said. The case in point is a good example of conceal/carry laws working as intended. And successfully. Thankfully the 22 year old was not killed. But if he had been, the Uber driver would still be found innocent of murder or even manslaughter.

[Independent voter]

The Uber driver was on site to provide police with documentation of gun ownership and his concealed carry permit. He is not facing any charges, as his actions were deemed "in the defense of himself and others."

He hit the accused 6 times and far as I can tell the accused is still alive. Wow!

The driver probably goes to a lot of bad neighborhoods.

[lockedout]

And given to someone who isn't mentally insane.

Do you think people with conceal carry permits are the problem when it comes to gun violence in America? Pro tip they aren't, and you're more likely to get shot by a cop then someone with a conceal carry permit.

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He hit the accused 6 times and far as I can tell the accused is still alive. Wow!

That's some 50 cent shit right there.

[Bushtuckrman]

The Uber driver was on site to provide police with documentation of gun ownership and his concealed carry permit. He is not facing any charges, as his actions were deemed "in the defense of himself and others."

He hit the accused 6 times and far as I can tell the accused is still alive. Wow!

The driver probably goes to a lot of bad neighborhoods.

Make this guy a cop, at least he doesn't miss