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    Are there differences between man and women or not?

    Are there differences between man and women or not? Some people are conviced that literally everything is a social construct . Even males can give birth to children if they really really want to. I think its possible maybe (in the near future) but otherwise it wouldnt work, atleast thats how i learned it from my biology teacher but it can be outdated information maybe. What do you think? Is it possible and would it be ehical / morally okay to do it if its possible in the future via surgery? Some argue that its just a social construct that its a female privilege to give birth to children and its opressive to people that identify as male. In my opiniion there are differnences between man and women in terms of body as well as behaviour (because of hormons like testosteron)

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    Yes, yes there are differences.


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    Yes, there's differences but that doesn't mean laws shouldn't be gender neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiili Mooneye View Post
    Yes, there's differences but that doesn't mean laws shouldn't be gender neutral.
    Basically this. I agree with ya.
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    There are innate differences, but socialisation is also a factor, and I'd argue a larger one. Seems to me a lot of people nowadays just use innate differences as an excuse to not challenge the status quo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VodkaRedBull View Post
    Are there differences between man and women or not? Some people are conviced that literally everything is a social construct . Even males can give birth to children if they really really want to. I think its possible maybe (in the near future) but otherwise it wouldnt work, atleast thats how i learned it from my biology teacher but it can be outdated information maybe. What do you think? Is it possible and would it be ehical / morally okay to do it if its possible in the future via surgery? Some argue that its just a social construct that its a female privilege to give birth to children and its opressive to people that identify as male. In my opiniion there are differnences between man and women in terms of body as well as behaviour (because of hormons like testosteron)
    Have you ever seen a female acting like a male?
    Have you ever seen a male acting like a female?

    and i'm not talking about gay people, i'm talking about everyone

    From my perspective i don't see any differences other than 1 body carries eggs and the other fertilizes it. "Behavior" is not male or female, behavior is learnt and repeated, untill it fails, then it re-adjusts it's self ect ect ect

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    Quote Originally Posted by VodkaRedBull View Post
    Are there differences between man and women or not? Some people are conviced that literally everything is a social construct . Even males can give birth to children if they really really want to. I think its possible maybe (in the near future) but otherwise it wouldnt work, atleast thats how i learned it from my biology teacher but it can be outdated information maybe. What do you think? Is it possible and would it be ehical / morally okay to do it if its possible in the future via surgery? Some argue that its just a social construct that its a female privilege to give birth to children and its opressive to people that identify as male. In my opiniion there are differnences between man and women in terms of body as well as behaviour (because of hormons like testosteron)
    What? Who?

    And yeah, what Tiili said. There's differences, but the law should treat everyone equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VodkaRedBull View Post
    Are there differences between man and women or not? Some people are conviced that literally everything is a social construct . Even males can give birth to children if they really really want to. I think its possible maybe (in the near future) but otherwise it wouldnt work, atleast thats how i learned it from my biology teacher but it can be outdated information maybe. What do you think? Is it possible and would it be ehical / morally okay to do it if its possible in the future via surgery? Some argue that its just a social construct that its a female privilege to give birth to children and its opressive to people that identify as male. In my opiniion there are differnences between man and women in terms of body as well as behaviour (because of hormons like testosteron)
    you come up with the weirdest topics...

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    Who was it that said that "not wanting to put on someone elses underwear because it's gross" is a social construct?

    I fell out of my chair that day.

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    The sexes differ physically,yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VodkaRedBull View Post
    Are there differences between man and women or not? Some people are conviced that literally everything is a social construct . Even males can give birth to children if they really really want to. I think its possible maybe (in the near future) but otherwise it wouldnt work, atleast thats how i learned it from my biology teacher but it can be outdated information maybe. What do you think? Is it possible and would it be ehical / morally okay to do it if its possible in the future via surgery? Some argue that its just a social construct that its a female privilege to give birth to children and its opressive to people that identify as male. In my opiniion there are differnences between man and women in terms of body as well as behaviour (because of hormons like testosteron)
    I'm not gonna touch that one.

    I will say that behaviors among men and women are far more associated with time, place, surroundings, and cues than they are associated with testosterone/estrogen (read: hormones).

    I have met many women who you would think are either lesbians or transgender just because of the way they act. Farm girls that were mostly raised on farms and can wrangle a calf to the ground faster than you can blink.

    Now, when we talk about laws, I believe that gender neutrality is important, but it has to go both ways. If a jilted spouse takes the life of their mate, they should get whatever sentence equally. We should not see a woman getting a lessened sentence because they were the "victim" of previous events.

    That really is my whole problem with this gender neutrality movement. I stand behind it 100%, but I get annoyed when something happens and all the world screams in unison, "But it's a girl!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protar View Post
    There are innate differences, but socialisation is also a factor, and I'd argue a larger one. Seems to me a lot of people nowadays just use innate differences as an excuse to not challenge the status quo.
    Id argue that the hormones are even bigger.

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    Fashion and social constructs form a lot of gender identity, in addition to social norms, accepted behaviours, etc.

    I'm fine with people trying to break those artificial constructs.

    There is of course also a clear difference physically and behaviourally because you're dealing with humans with a different gene-set between the genders, leading to different hormones and body plans.

    Now body plan determines capabilities to a degree, but that's easy enough to factor in without it leading to inequality.

    Hormones genetic coding of the brain also influence behaviour. This area can use a whole lot more objective research, if humanity is to take it into account objectively. There are actual behavioural differences there that colour a lot of human interaction. As long as we don't start attaching values to them, I am sure we can all value each other equally.

    But yeah, it does mean there can, at times, be wide differences between men and women. Some we could potentially change. Others, we may just have to learn to live with better than we are currently doing, rather than erase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VodkaRedBull View Post
    Are there differences between man and women or not? Some people are conviced that literally everything is a social construct . Even males can give birth to children if they really really want to. I think its possible maybe (in the near future) but otherwise it wouldnt work, atleast thats how i learned it from my biology teacher but it can be outdated information maybe. What do you think? Is it possible and would it be ehical / morally okay to do it if its possible in the future via surgery? Some argue that its just a social construct that its a female privilege to give birth to children and its opressive to people that identify as male. In my opiniion there are differnences between man and women in terms of body as well as behaviour (because of hormons like testosteron)
    It's a sign of how much life has improved in the developed world, thats for sure!

    Remember when "oppression" was a word used for authoritative governments, and legel racial/gender inequality? No, apparently, we have the luxury to ponder if just being male or female (or even alive for that matter) is oppressive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman View Post
    Who was it that said that "not wanting to put on someone elses underwear because it's gross" is a social construct?

    I fell out of my chair that day.
    That was OP's thread I'm pretty sure.

    Otherwise I think Tiili hit the nail on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protar View Post
    There are innate differences, but socialisation is also a factor, and I'd argue a larger one. Seems to me a lot of people nowadays just use innate differences as an excuse to not challenge the status quo.
    I think its the other way around. Socialisation helps in general but there will always be things you don't understand or grasp being born one way or the other

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    Men are from mars
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    Women are from venus.

    Both sexes are different in body, mind, prioritys, ...
    the big difference starts when puberty kicks in with all the hormones, before then it is mainly social.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiili Mooneye View Post
    Yes, there's differences but that doesn't mean laws shouldn't be gender neutral.
    I doubt I have seen too many better examples of /thread.

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    There are definite differences. Physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically, spiritually, etc... That doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated differenetly under the law, however because of said differences, in many ways they need to be.

    For example: should/would you put women in prison with men? Should women have reduced standards to become a Navy S.E.A.L.? Or should the SEALS reduce their standards so women have a chance to compete?

    I'mall for equal pay for equal work, but realistically, a job shouldn't have to cater their standards for men and women. What I mean by that is that the job should dictate the standards. You want to work on a farm, or on an oil rig, or a fishing boat in Alaska, or the NBA, NFL, etc... The job needs to dictate the standard. And as thus, if a woman can hack it, then more power to them.

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