Why does one gender get upset when the opposite gender gets fanservice?

[derpkitteh]

i don't like it when either gender is made fanservicey, because it looks stupid. i hate bikini armor, it makes me want to punch people in the throat.

[Goradan]

Japan is pretty much ontop of that, they love their androgynous men/women (just look at their idols), and they're still a very male-dominated society with plenty of mysoginy.

I would love to visit japan sometime in the near future, but the whole Misogyny deal is something I DON'T like.

[Deleted]

I dislike Fanservice either way most of the time. Stuff like Anime comes to mind. I don't watch stuff like this when its rampant because it feels like the anime wants to waste my time.

[Goradan]

i don't like it when either gender is made fanservicey, because it looks stupid. i hate bikini armor, it makes me want to punch people in the throat.

Nah just stab them in the gut. "Bet you wish you had proper armor, ya tool"

[Noradin]

Yaoi seems to have almost only female fans. I have yet to encounter a guy that likes it.

I know of some who do, one of the problems for them is the aforementioned, the other is the age, a lot of yaoi seems to written about twelve year olds and that is far too young to read about for most gays I know. It is a general problem of fanfiction though.

[Alefnir]

Japan is pretty much ontop of that, they love their androgynous men/women (just look at their idols), and they're still a very male-dominated society with plenty of mysoginy.

Well, there's a difference between making men androgynous and objectifying men for the sake of giving women fan service. Most heterosexual women I know tend to prefer masculine men; hunks. Though I suppose there are cultural differences in the preferred appearance. In any case, my point is it's silly that people want to do away with sexualization entirely rather than giving service to both men and women alike. It seems like a regimen that'll make everyone unhappy.

[TheImperios]

Japan is pretty much ontop of that, they love their androgynous men/women (just look at their idols), and they're still a very male-dominated society with plenty of mysoginy.

It is in fact a tendency. All male-dominated Ancient and Classical societies, from Ancient Greece to feudal Japan to medieval Islamic Persia, supported male homosexuality, which is why we know a lot about the gay love life of Alexander the Great (for example) but virtually nothing about, say, the Norse people, who had female warriors and all.

[Themius]

Gays hating yaoi maybe because it's written by a bunch of women who have this fantasy of super feminine guys?

I mean lots of gays don't hate on mentaiko



I really don't get the women and the super fem, super thin, and oddly pointy guys. Pointy chins pointy features it's so weird

Bara>Yaoi

[idunnowatdo]

i only hate fan service when its patronizey

i don't like it when either gender is made fanservicey, because it looks stupid. i hate bikini armor, it makes me want to punch people in the throat.

that would work because its not covered hue hue

[Magistrate]

Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to SUFFERING!

lol

I lol'd so hard.

I really don't get the women and the super fem, super thin, and oddly pointy guys. Pointy chins pointy features it's so weird
Bara>Yaoi

I try to explain this and literally no one gets it. Kudos to you.

[Noradin]

It is in fact a tendency. All male-dominated Ancient and Classical societies, from Ancient Greece to feudal Japan to medieval Islamic Persia, supported male homosexuality, which is why we know a lot about the gay love life of Alexander the Great (for example) but virtually nothing about, say, the Norse people, who had female warriors and all.

That is saying more about how in dept our knowledge about these cultures is and less about homosexuality. We know almost nothing about homosexuality among the Norse people because they did not leave and indication about it either way.
By the way did you know the reason the people of the book (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) are so adverse to homosexuality is due to their (not unjustified) dislike for Emperor Hadrian and his lover Antinous whom he declared a god after his (Antinous') death and who became a role model for young roman nobles for centuries afterwards?

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I really don't get the women and the super fem, super thin, and oddly pointy guys. Pointy chins pointy features it's so weird

They are placeholders for girl characters just with dicks so that the girls reading it don't need to be scared of identifying with them too much.
They can observe some sex without feeling more involved than than they wish to be.

[Sy]

like Noomz and others said, there are more reasons for why people may dislike something with fanservice than just the fact that it has that fanservice.

i'm sure there are plenty of people who just dislike fanservice targeted at the opposite gender/sexuality/etc simply because it hurts their ego, or because they only notice the gross objectification/misrepresentation of their own gender/sexuality/etc, without noticing similar things in fanservice that appeals to them.

but there are often good reasons to dislike a kind of fanservice in general, where the problem isn't just specific to one gender, like the misrepresentation of 'safe, sane and consensual' bdsm shown in 50 Shades (not to mention the fact that it is specifically targeted at people who are curious about these things but who don't really know anything about them and are very unlikely to properly inform themselves, which can actually be potentially dangerous) or like the stereotypical bikini-chainmail that can completely destroy any immersion into an otherwise fascinating game world.

people are obviously less likely to notice bad effects of something that is specifically designed to appeal to them, but that doesn't mean there aren't any good reasons to dislike such fanservice as either gender.

[Dsonsion]

I don't get upset for the fanservice offered to the other gender, not at all. I just dislike fanservice of any kind when it adds nothing to the plot, and oh well, when the plot is based around fanservice, it's just garbage to me. I'd rather go watch porn or something.
Having said that, I wholeheartedly disagree with any kind of censorship on this kind of content. I may despise it, but I have the choice to watch it or not do it. If I'm not directly affected by it, why the hell should I care?

Oh, and mentioning 50 Shades of Grey; that shit doesn't bother me because it has sex in it. There are dozens of things wrong with the books involving treatment of other human beings that disgust me. Those books glorify degradation of others, and condone what I would think it's torture. It's despicable, and far from harmless.

[brimdog]

Humans, as imperfect as we are, tend to believe that our observations are perfect. This leads to a disconnect towards other people in that: 'if they do not think and feel how I think and feel then they must be wrong'.

[Independent voter]

Been watching Fate Stay Night, pretty good show but like most anime they throw in some fan service

The prime and proper Saber



Was captured and tied up. For some reason her captor decided to tie her up bent over.

[GennGreymane]

double standards

[GennGreymane]

If only more men looked like He-Man. /sigh

at least I do

[Cthulhu 2020]

Sexualisation leads to objectification, and objectification is also known as dehumanisation. Dehumanisation leads to hate and abuse. Hate and abuse leads to the dark side.

There we go, my work here is done.

[Cthulhu 2020]

at least I do

What does the scouter say about your power level?

[Jester Joe]

I thought people hated 50 Shades of Grey because it has a dumb story.