Guardian Druid HFC Itemization Options

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Helm

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124261/oath

No real competition, no others have mastery.

Shoulders

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124272/oath

No real competition, some lower ilevel zone drops.

Chest

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124246/oath

Haste versatility option in same ilevel, but again no real compeititon.

Hands

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124254/felf
vs
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124255/oath

This is where the fun begins. This is the tier piece I think we drop, since it has no mastery and the archimonde hands have highest ilevel and have mastery. Lots of haste I'm noticing, so far the trend is mastery+haste/crit in our gear options as opposed to BRFs multistrike.

Legs

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124267/oath

Some crit/haste options with 5 ilevels higher, but I dont think they will challenge the ever faithful combo of mastery multi.

Feet

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124250/toxi

Though there is option of 5 ilevel higher crit haste combo.

Wrist

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124278/gore
vs
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124280/mana

Not sure on this one, the crit mastery one has 10 ilevels higher, but it weights mastery lowest and has lots of crit which tends to be viewed negatively.

Waist

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124276/wais

Easy choice. Archimonde and has heavy mastery.

Ring

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124204/mann

Seems best, there is one for multistrike though which was neat.

Neck

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124222/worl

Doesn't seem to be a mastery neck; this is the next best.


Cloak

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124147/v...-cloak&bonus=0

Highest ilevel option and has mastery and bonus armor, what's not to love?

Weapon

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124379/b...hollow&bonus=0
vs
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124378/x...f-ruin&bonus=0

This one is up to debate; higher mastery, or higher ilevel and multistrike over crit? I think really both will work, probably the higher ilevel one when it comes down to it.

TL : DR 4SET BOYS. Mastery on pretty much everything. We gucci. Watch our DKs, mages, rogues and other druids we come for your tiers.

[ikewu83]

Great to see this kind of post, my idea on hand, waist and helm is try 715 leather making items(Merciless) at first week, then replaced the Heroic Archi Stuff.
And about stat, I prefer mastery, haste and multistrike, crit and ver are both good, but may be a little be expensive when comparing with mastery, haste and multistrike at 6.2.
And Lyuben, what do you think it is a good idea if we push mastery over 80%? of course with All buff and Trinket effects.

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Great to see this kind of post, my idea on hand, waist and helm is try 715 leather making items(Merciless) at first week, then replaced the Heroic Archi Stuff.
And about stat, I prefer mastery, haste and multistrike, crit and ver are both good, but may be a little be expensive when comparing with mastery, haste and multistrike at 6.2.
And Lyuben, what do you think it is a good idea if we push mastery over 80%? of course with All buff and Trinket effects.

I think it might be a good idea to consider crafted; though I'm not a rich pepe so I'm not too sure for myself, I do have a lot of leather though, so I suppose I just need to do a lot of fishing/skinning.

I think mastery itself doesn't have diminishing returns, when I hit 100+ mastery with my blast furnace proc, it feels insanely powerful, and to be close to that all the time just feels even better.

Oh and one extra thing.

Weapon

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124379/b...hollow&bonus=0
vs
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124378/x...f-ruin&bonus=0

This one is up to debate; higher mastery, or higher ilevel and multistrike over crit? I think really both will work, probably the higher ilevel one when it comes down to it.

[ikewu83]

I think it might be a good idea to consider crafted; though I'm not a rich pepe so I'm not too sure for myself, I do have a lot of leather though, so I suppose I just need to do a lot of fishing/skinning.

I think mastery itself doesn't have diminishing returns, when I hit 100+ mastery with my blast furnace proc, it feels insanely powerful, and to be close to that all the time just feels even better.

Oh and one extra thing.

Weapon

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124379/b...hollow&bonus=0
vs
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124378/x...f-ruin&bonus=0

This one is up to debate; higher mastery, or higher ilevel and multistrike over crit? I think really both will work, probably the higher ilevel one when it comes down to it.

My Choice is Xu'tenash, Glaive of Ruin, since I don't want a lot of crit at 6.2!

[CenariusTheForestLord]

SO, 4 set is a thing then. Leaving behind the pure itemization component, do you think it is worth having lower ilvl set items than higher ilvl offsets?
Again hypothetical, say all items in contention have mastery/multistrike

[ikewu83]

Lyuben, my idea for bear before acquiring 2pc herioc T18 to use GOE and T17, the two thing are nice combo which great of savage defense time and non-savage defense time, what do you thing?^_^

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Lyuben, my idea for bear before acquiring 2pc herioc T18 to use GOE and T17, the two thing are nice combo which great of savage defense time and non-savage defense time, what do you thing?^_^

2P Tier 18 doesn't really work as well with goe, but I suppose the itemization can work. I think you will really quickly replace your T17 stuff though, normal stuff already borders mythic stuff.

[Sonnillon]

I was thinking a bit (maybe too much & sorry for thread hijack), but what do you think of the following "priority" for obtaining items for an average guardian like

me: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...C3%AD/advanced

Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1597911552
Italic is pieces of gear what I will consider taking if no one else wants, strike through ilvl means that I don't plan in needing that item from that difficulty and bold is "BiS" more or less.

So, should I change anything in my list or will it be a good way to plan one's bonus roll usages?

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I was thinking a bit (maybe too much & sorry for thread hijack), but what do you think of the following "priority" for obtaining items for an average guardian like

me: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...C3%AD/advanced

Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1597911552
Italic is pieces of gear what I will consider taking if no one else wants, strike through ilvl means that I don't plan in needing that item from that difficulty and bold is "BiS" more or less.

So, should I change anything in my list or will it be a good way to plan one's bonus roll usages?

Seems about right.

Intereseting thing; some changes seem to have been made?

Since I made my post a mastery+BA has been added as well as a few other things. But yeah, you might consider crafted gear for a few pieces early on if you are a LW or JC.

I'd maybe not consider the class trinket; even with full mythic and scaling at 240% scaling resolve, it does very little for actual stuff that matters. I don't recall but the highest it will probably scale to is around 10k with maximum mythic and resolve, which is really honestly piss poor unless it situationally helps.

[Sonnillon]

Seems about right.

Was kinda the first time I did my own list w/o basing it on the IncBear or AMR list. And as we have leather users and agility users on top of few other who grave for Vanquisher, then knowing what should I need or what should I pass seemed handy.

Seems about right.
Intereseting thing; some changes seem to have been made?

I don't know about the changes, but I browsed this sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...suU/edit#gid=0 and decided to come up with something personalized for myself and just checked the names and stuff from wowhead http://www.wowhead.com/news=247155/h...ses-archimonde

Since I made my post a mastery+BA has been added as well as a few other things. But yeah, you might consider crafted gear for a few pieces early on if you are a LW or JC.

I am a LW and I do have some pieces in my bank or I can always restore the ones I DEd. But TBH, I don't see at least for the bear a reason for farming the mats in Tanaan for the upgrades (I loathe fishing and given the amount of people "on peak times when new content comes out" will be hard to skin something as well). I don't want to drop my 2-set until I have set pieces from the new one for a 2-set. So the legs/shoulders will be keepers. And possible Belt and/or chest I could craft/upgrade is truly needed. But as I am not going to do bleeding edge progression then I could go on the lazy way ^^. I should have plenty of gear to tank normals

I'd maybe not consider the class trinket; even with full mythic and scaling at 240% scaling resolve, it does very little for actual stuff that matters. I don't recall but the highest it will probably scale to is around 10k with maximum mythic and resolve, which is really honestly piss poor unless it situationally helps.

I won't be seeing the Class trinket that soon anyway, if I stay realistical about the progression the group of mine can make. But TBH until the Cursed Plume or Tyrant's one the 2 trinkets I have now should be more then enough. I just don't see any other viable option other then the Sigil or the Eye, but I feel that those are far more inferior to my present trinkets.