So Cuba has more then likely had a lung cancer vaccine for years

[Puremallace]

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7267518.html

So yeah lets take a guess how long before this gets sold in the US at anything that resembles an affordable price.

The vaccine, called CimaVax, has been researched in Cuba for 25 years and became available for free to the Cuban public in 2011. The country's Center for Molecular Immunology signed an agreement this week with Roswell Park Cancer Institute in Buffalo, New York to import CimaVax and begin clinical trials in the United States.

"We’re still at the very early stages of assessing the promise of this vaccine, but the evidence so far from clinical trials in Cuba and Europe has been striking," Dr. Kelvin Lee, Jacobs Family Chair in Immunology and co-leader of the Tumor Immunology and Immunotherapy Program at Roswell Park, told The Huffington Post.

When President Obama loosened the United State's 55-year long trade embargo against the island nation in December, he allowed for such joint research deals to be finalized. Similar programs might have been impossible just a few years ago.

Cuba has long been known for its high-quality cigars, and lung cancer is a major public health problem and the fourth-leading cause of death in the country. A 2007 study of patients with stages IIIB and IV lung cancer, published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology, confirmed the safety of the CimaVax and showed an increase in tumor-reducing antibody production in more than half of cases. It proved particularly effective for increased survival if the study participant was younger than 60.

So far, 5,000 patients worldwide have been treated with CimaVax, including 1,000 patients in Cuba. Lee said the latest Cuban study of 405 patients, which has not yet been published, confirms earlier findings about the safety and efficacy of the vaccine. What's more, the shot is cheap -- it costs the Cuban government just $1, Wired reported. And studies have found there are no significant side effects.

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Sounds too good to be true and usually it isnt then.

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http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/abou...cancer-vaccine

Actually looks like it could be promising, but it's worth noting that this is promising not a de facto miracle cure. Results from early trials are very positive but they are all under 100 person trials, more large scale testing is still to come over the next few years.

Also to be clear: this is also not a cure, just an extension of life like many cancer treatments, the title is fairly clickbaity.

[Grimbold21]

surely it will cause autism...

[Independent voter]

This was on reddit. Some doctor said there are all kinds of anti cancer vaccines, something about the vaccine has a lot of side effects.

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it isn't a prophylactic vaccine you give to everyone...... It is for people with the disease.

[Puremallace]

Also to be clear: this is also not a cure, just an extension of life like many cancer treatments, the title is fairly clickbaity.

From the article it says that it shrinks the tumors by having anti bodies attack it. Unless I read that wrong.

it isn't a prophylactic vaccine you give to everyone...... It is for people with the disease.

Now they gave to everyone because it looks like it conditions your immune system to recognize the tumor.

[Mifuyne]

It's from Cuba.
How real can it actually be?

[ArMeD_SuRvIvOr]

It's from Cuba.
How real can it actually be?

Not to sound like a dick, but that's harsh, ignorant and prejudiced.

You obviously don't know how advanced the medical care in Cuba is. Their medical personnel are highly trained and experienced, and have developed quite a few techniques in the field. They send medical teams across the world as humanitarian aid in cases of natural disasters, and in the medical world they are highly regarded as one of the best in the world.

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From the article it says that it shrinks the tumors by having anti bodies attack it. Unless I read that wrong.



Now they gave to everyone because it looks like it conditions your immune system to recognize the tumor.

I don't believe they have tested this at all yet (though haven't really read on it for a couple of years). The major concern would be that it would also fuck with the growth processes of normal healthy tissues I would think and it would have to be tested to the ends of the earth to be declared safe. The reason that it got used so quickly on people with NSCLC is that often by the time it is spotted you have it, chemo isn't very effective.

[Puremallace]

Not to sound like a dick, but that's harsh, ignorant and prejudiced.

You obviously don't know how advanced the medical care in Cuba is. Their medical personnel are highly trained and experienced, and have developed quite a few techniques in the field. They send medical teams across the world as humanitarian aid in cases of natural disasters, and in the medical world they are highly regarded as one of the best in the world.

Basically this. When kids say "I want to cure cancer" they should also say they want to goto Cuba because those doctors down there are not in it for the money. The human clinical trial testing part in the US will be justified to MASSIVELY spike the cost of this vaccine to 80,000 per dose.

In reality if this gets approved in the US I will go out of my way to order it or take a trip to Cuba to get vaccinated.

[dextersmith]

They made this before NA, EU?!

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From the article it says that it shrinks the tumors by having anti bodies attack it. Unless I read that wrong.

It doesn't actually eliminate any of the underlying causes though. Just shrinking a tumour isn't enough to "fix" cancer in the long term. The study shows average survival time changing from 7months without vaccine to 15 months with vaccine, which is good, but it's still not a cure.

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They made this before NA, EU?!

UK at least appears to be awaiting results of the US trials (which are in 2016+17). There's not much point in every country running large scale clinical trials, sit and wait for another to do it and then take the results!

[dextersmith]

UK at least appears to be awaiting results of the US trials (which are in 2016+17). There's not much point in every country running large scale clinical trials, sit and wait for another to do it and then take the results!

Weren't they researching forever too?

[Mifuyne]

Not to sound like a dick, but that's harsh, ignorant and prejudiced.
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They were either lucky if it works, or it's fake.
Do you know how advanced medical care is in Nordic Countries?
If all that you claim is true, good for them (and us as well!).
However, it's hard to imagine that a place like Cuba is a "king of the hill" of..anything.

[Stormdash]

Probably about as valid as the various junk science triumphs claimed by the Soviets or the Norks as propaganda for the glory of communism.

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they threw a tonne of money into preventative healthcare and associated sciences DECADES ago...., I wouldn't be surprised if most of you didn't realise that Che was also a physician...

[ArMeD_SuRvIvOr]

They were either lucky if it works, or it's fake.
Do you know how advanced medical care is in Nordic Countries?
If all that you claim is true, good for them (and us as well!).
However, it's hard to imagine that a place like Cuba is a "king of the hill" of..anything.

The info is out there. Cuba, when it comes to medical care, is one of the best of the world. To say that "if it comes from Cuba, it must be shit or so-so" is just typical crap coming from someone who lives in a country they deem "superior".

[Herewe Goagain]

First, you can't trust Huffington Post. Secondly its way too early to say that it is effective. The odds are against it, but for everyone afflicted with this disease, let's hope it is genuine.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/19/up...002&abg=0&_r=0